Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

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tsogud said:

HylianSwordsman said:

Guys can we not fight? This is getting really ugly...

I really want to see Biden lose the primary. Right now Biden and all his fans are cheering over how much the Bernie and Warren camps are fighting. This isn't productive at all. I'm all for offering criticisms of Warren, and can take criticisms of Bernie, but the fights in this thread don't even seem to be about the candidates anymore, it's like we're mad at each other. That's not going to help anyone. I don't even know where to jump in because it's a giant mess now.

And at the very least, can we not demonize each other? I respect all of you, we're all good people here. It's seriously bumming me out to see this.

Agreed. I support both Bernie and Liz (Bernie being my preference) but Biden is the person all progressives should be concerned about no matter what camp you fall into. I'm thankful Warren is showing strong signs of a fight now, any progressive energizing the electorate is a win.

I'm a lot more cynical than you cause I only trust Bernie and Tulsi. Especially since Warren stated she would take corporate money and the big money interest are willing to settle with her. She's also courting the insiders of the party which she claims to fight and is bolstering her campaign with 10mil corp cash. She's wishy washy on M4A, she endorsed Hillary and she's been backtracking on things including whether the primary was rigged or not.

Let me be honest here, I wouldn't vote for her and I know many others who are the same and she continues to rub Bernie supporters the wrong way each time she opens her mouth lately. She probably would lose to trump in the general. Her poor political instincts are catching up to her and these "calculations" as some like to describe it just look bad and makes her not trustworthy. And that is the biggest reason why I would never vote for her. I don't trust her.