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Hiku said:
Majin-Tenshinhan said:

First of all, thank you for addressing opposing views in a manner that actually invites debate instead of simply berating people who don't agree with you. It's a nice change of pace from some others in this thread :p

I feel like a big thing here is that I'm being lumped in with a bunch of haters I've never interacted with and never seen posts from, though? This is my first time ever commenting on the FF7 remake since its very first announcement because, quite frankly, I was instantly turned off by most of the things they said about it. These latest trailers changed that - they made me think that it might be something for me after all, problem is, the misgivings I have about certain aspects of the project don't magically disappear. I don't think it's conductive or helpful for fans to blatantly disregard potential new consumers who have concerns. Please note, I don't feel you are really doing this since you're clearly stating your points and accepting opposing views, but this thread as a whole has been really telling.

I think that I've properly explained what my concerns about this game are, and you've explained your counterpoints well. We disagree, but I think we can both see each other's perspectives, yes? So as far as I'm concerned, we might as well put a pin in it here. I don't know about you, but I feel like I've gained something from the discussion, at least.

As for the project itself, has it been confirmed that it's going to be specifically 3 parts, or are you simply speculating? It's been a long time since I played FF7 but it feels like if it's meant to be 3 parts that having just Midgar in the first part seems a bit small, but I might be misremembering how long it was in the original game.

Sorry, let me clarify. And I'll edit my previous post afterwards to reflect this. When I said "complain about", I was mainly referring to the ones who "bring this up" out of nowhere. And that was not you.
I also chose to engage in this discussion, like you. Mainly because I wanted to understand some viewpoints that were/are unclear to me.
But it's getting to a point where people are (understandably so) frustrated that this is brought up in almost every FF7 thread that doesn't call for the subject.
Just two days ago it happened in another FF7 thread, by at least one person. Who then went on to say that he suspects the game will be 40 hours, filled with content they're not passionate about, just to fill it out to make a full game, even though Square went on record saying its a full game 60h+ experience on two Blu Rays. (If their goal was just to put in enough uninspired content to make it barely pass as a full game, I wouldn't expect two Blu Rays. Let alone with the level of polish we see in the trailers.) That's why I brought it up earlier.

And I understand what you mean about some blanket statements being made, so I tried not to do that.

I think the only thing that may be a little bit hard for me to picture is disliking the idea of Midgar to the point where it's particularly concerning before seeing it. Being less excited about it than me, I understand that. Not everyone is looking forward to hanging out with Jesse. But because they can do so much in a place like that, some of which we've already seen in the trailers, and because I have played games that take place in one city that I've enjoyed, I'm not sure where exactly they are coming from. So I try to ask questions to better understand it.

The 3 Part comment was just me making an example. I was thinking of the Xenosaga series, that was planned to be 6 Episodes, but was wrapped up in Episode 3 after Epi 2 was received poorly. (Mainly thanks to Namco meddling in the development process.)
We don't know exactly how many games this will be yet. And I'm not sure they specified that it will definitely only be Midgar, but I think it at least sounded like it would be the majority of the game, iirc. But I wouldn't expect more than Midgar, unless they specify otherwise.

But regarding your last sentence, if it was just the same Midgar portion of the original game, then in terms of length it would be pretty short. But as I assume you've seen, there are a lot of things going on in Midgar now that didn't happen in the original.

Also, not related to anything we talked about, but since someone I spoke to just now had missed this, in case you have as well, they added a Classic Mode to the game where the ATB gauge fills up over time, rather than building up when you do combos. So it essentially plays like the original. Turn based.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3_sUZc8bTI&feature=youtu.be&t=440

@ 7:20

Yes, I saw. I didn't even mind the new combat system, but I think it's super interesting that they've got it both ways now. I'd probably play the new system if I played it, but if I ended up not liking it I could just switch to the old way. I think that's really cool.