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Mnementh said:
curl-6 said:

There are a multitude of fitness apps on smartphones. And "motion gaming" isn't its own thing with a strong draw anymore, motion controls have been absorbed into the general fabric of gaming.

I mean, you don't really expect Ring Fit Adventure to sell on par with Wii Fit, surely?

Bolded: fitness apps, yes, not fitness games. Fitness apps track your progress. Something like that you could always do, even without electronic help. It is surely a bit more comfortable with an electronic device. But that is not what most of the Wii Fit users drove to the game.

Underlined: No, I don't expect it to sell on par, but not because of Smartphones. I don't expect it, because Switch so far is not the draw to the same crowd as the Wii was. See, for years the Wii only had Just Dance, and numbers slowly dwindled. That was because Nintendo gave up on it, and Just Dance alone didn't draw new users, only the old userbase slowly declining. What did bring in the users of Just Dance and Wii Fit in the first place to Wii was Wii Sports. Switch doesn't have it yet. So I expect Ring Fit Adventure to sell similarly to what Wii Fit would've sold, if there had been no Wii Sports beforehand: a few million. What made Wii Fit sold 20 million (and another 20 for Wii Fit Plus) was that Wii Sports already had attracted a crowd interested in these kind of games. Wii Fit didn't needed to sell the system. But there is no Switch Sports. So Ring Fit adventure has to sell the system, not only itself. Also it sells on a history in which Nintendo showed that they all too willingly and fast gave up on these users. Back in the Wii days, you might have expected, you got Wii Sports, Wii Fit and Just Dance and maybe the next year something more. But nothing more came and Nintendo dropped all of it. No further support, no updates, no advancements on the concept. Todays customers can base their purchase on this history. That Nintendo abandoned them.

I don't entirely disagree, nor did I mean to imply that smartphones alone were the reason this won't do Wii Fit numbers. The success of Wii Sports and Wii Fit will never be replicated IMO because they're like that joke that's only funny the first time; the exploded due to their novelty and freshness, but now that it's been done, it'll never be novel and fresh again.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 14 September 2019