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EricHiggin said:

sundin13 said:

Things would be very different under different circumstances.

First of all, I don't really think anyone is under the impression that Trump really does much listening, or going over things with a fine-toothed comb. He seems to be either reading from a teleprompter or just kinda winging it. I think this is one of the things that makes a Trump Lie different that your typical "Politician Lie". A politician typically lies by knowing all the facts and manipulating them to say what they want them to say (through bias interpretations or misleading selection of evidence). A Trump Lie on the other hand involves him just saying something with no facts to back it up other than something he may or may not have heard somewhere over the past week or so.

Second, Trump never really admits error on his own part, so it would feel like scapegoating were he to simply blame it on someone else. A culture of accountability starts at the top, and if the people at the top are always desperately pointing fingers at others and never taking any blame, you haven't developed any accountability.

That said, if this were a normal presidency, I still believe the President should apologize, because it doesn't really matter where he got the information. He is the boss. If someone below him failed to do their job, that reflects on him as the boss and the environment he has created. He should ensure that he is backing himself up by people who he can trust to tell the truth and not simply Yes Men (another area where Trump is failing), and when a mistake is made under him, he should take credit as the head of that chain of command.

"That said, if this were a normal presidency".

This right here. It's not a typical presidency, especially when it comes to the constant bombardment against the President. He's not the only one to get heat, but he sure does get way more than what's typical, and more B.S. nonsense along with it. Two entire years of constantly being smeared as a Russian pawn, only to find out there's little to no evidence of that? At least the opposition were willing to be the grown up's and apologize when the report was finished and Trump was cleared... or did they just jump to the next smear campaign? Hmmm...

You hear a lot about what Trump should do, like maybe, not always taking all the credit. When he does do that though, it get's disregarded or is a bad thing or it's just not good enough. Why bother trying to please people who obviously can't be pleased? If you won't hold yourself to the same basic decent human standards that you ask of someone else, then don't expect other people to act on what you preach.

The Report: This report doesn't exonerate Trump
Trump: Complete exoneration

Just because the president says it, doesn't mean it is true. Meanwhile, you can't really ask "why wasn't he charged if he is guilty", when the Attorney General (who he appointed) literally said that a sitting president cannot be charged.

That said, while Trump does get a lot of bad coverage, he does a lot of really stupid things. You can't really compare the coverage of one president to another when Trump is so universally atypical. Most of the time, when Trump is getting flak, it is either because he deserved or because he instigated it. He doesn't get a free pass on stupid bullshit just because he does a lot of stupid bullshit...