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Puppyroach said:
VAMatt said:
https://medium.com/handwaving-freakoutery/everybodys-lying-about-the-link-between-gun-ownership-and-homicide-1108ed400be5

And here's one from notoriously anti-gun WaPo https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/02/14/most-americans-incorrectly-think-gun-homicides-have-gotten-worse-not-better/%3foutputType=amp

But none of those statistics are arguments against gun control or reducing the number of guns in society in order to reduce the number of mass shootings and gun-related deaths in the US.

Those demonstrate that as the number of guns in the US has increased, the number of people being killed by them has decreased.  

I've never argued that its impossible to reduce the number of people killed by guns.  I'm sure there's a way to do that.  But, that shouldn't be anyone's goal.  The goal, I would think, should be to reduce the number of deaths of innocent people, period.  Nobody has presented any evidence that taking away guns from law abiding people will achieve that.   Also, that claim doesn't pass the smell test. 

Of course, even if you could make a convincing case that taking guns from non-violent people would reduce the total number of deaths in the US, you'd still have the problem of doing so being a violation of everyone's basic human rights.  I'm not willing to violate everyone's rights, especially in service of an unsubstantiated claim about it making people less likely to be the victim of violent crime.