Microsoft should put Halo on Switch

[Mr Puggsly]

DonFerrari said:

Mr Puggsly said:

If MS could get XBL on PlayStation, I think we agree they would put some content on PlayStation. So I guess that would suggest MS wants more than just software revenue.

MS want revenue. And want to push their conditions and still look like the good guy.

A significant portion of the PC gaming audience doesn't necessarily care much about consoles for various reasons, its also an audience all over the world. While Xbox primarily just sells in western countries, so a great way to reach them is putting games on PC. Also, they run their own store on PC, they can get people to use XBL and they can push services like Gamepass.

Yes Xbox doesn't reach much outside of USA and UK, so putting their games on PS4 would also make their games appear to many more people similar to how they do with PC and now start to do with Switch.

Xbox consoles might lose sales by sharing games with PC, but its also worth considering they're making Xbox games available to the massive PC audience whether it be on Windows Store and sometimes Steam. This is very likely boosting their software revenue without supporting a direct competitor like PlayStation.

Considering the shared library PC is very much a direct competitor.

We can't really quantify the impact BC has had on Xbox One, but according to MS its a popular service. A notable exclusive might help sell millions of units, maybe that's the impact BC had.

Yes we can. PS3 didn't lose sales when cutting BC, but won a lot of sales when cutting BC allowed to reduce price. PS4 didn't lose the record breaking streak by releasing without BC (done much better than PS3 that was full BC, and is still ahead of PS2 that had BC). Sales of X1 didn't improve significantly after release of BC, in fact it more likely stayed flat while PS4 was increasing.

So BC and just ports of old games don't move HW. A remaster or collection (like Halo MCC) can move some, since the game will look closer to modern, but still won't impact much the sales of the console. So launching Halo 1 port or remaster on PS4 wouldn't impact sales of X1 as long as the current Halo are kept only on X1 even more because the MP would be very small on PS4 due to low sales of old games ported on a platform that doesn't have a strong following of the IP.

Look like the good guy? I dont think thats the goal.

Again, you seem to miss the point the point that PS4 is a direct competitor. The goal is not simply boosting software revenue, they also use major exclusives to move hardware and encourage people to use Windows Store. The Switch support thus far has been limited but they managed to get XBL on it.

I think youre saying PC has the library of a direct competitor? But I wont argue with that unless you choose to clarify your point.

You just made an argument about PS3 sales not being hurt by removing BC, then you add the minor detail it came with huge price cuts. Also, 7th gen BC is more popular then 6th gen BC because there was a larger quanity of notable games, some still have active online populations.

PS4 also had a reasonable price compared to PS3 at launch, thats partly why PS4 has done very well. Your arguments are terrible.

Let me put it this way. Did the X1 lose sales because BC? No. Did it gain sales? Very possible. Hence, we cant quantify it. The BC feature has been used by much of the audience, so its not crazy to assume it sold some hardware.