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I like how we've had this topic going on for weeks on end, and the same result is "trade games to one system, but only get money and nothing else in return".

I mean, of course you're going to want to make money if you give the games over, that's more or less the absolute and only objective outcome of making a deal like that. The part where you go "no, you give me your games, but I won't give you mine, because borked logic", is where the one way street part comes in, and no, that's not objective logic either, it's fully opinion based.

If you find Y box a direc competitor, then you should honestly be looking at the insane giant of a monster, that is mobile, that has more users, makes the most money and is just gaining far more popularity and showing no signs of stopping. You know, what some console users want in regards to their system of choice. I mean, you do want it to be a sucesss, you do want hundreds of millions to adopt and use the device, as well as wanting it to make the most money, right?. Because if not, you're on the wrong forum, the wrong planet, and you're excusing one player in the game, because it's of a device you don't care for.

THis is coming from a guy who absolutely loathes mobile gaming, but I know damn well that it is the top dog, the bread winner of this entire industry, and that is has most definitely given influence to many devs,m in how they design their games and who to approach in terms of marketing/pandering to. The latest Stronghold game looks like a sodding mobile game through and through, all simpified, low poly etc. To claim the king of all platforms isn't influeicing the other systems is insane. THey are a competitor, and even if the big 3 refuse to see it that way, that is their bed to make and lie in, that is their problem, and it is their followers problem to deal with, when it's far too late as well, because I can see them as a competitor, due to the amount of influence and devs it's got on board.

Shitty MTX games, yeah, but shiut tons of money, shit tons of users, shit tons of ads, shit tons of recognition and casuals talking about said games on a daily basis. You cannot ignore mobile and claim "it's nothing compared to Nintendo", because it fucking is, hence why they've decided to get into that market, because that is actually where the money is really at. If they decided to ignore it for decades more, they would have lost out in the end. Even MS and Sony are into that market, albeit in various ways.

I'm getting so very tired of this approach and belief, that one platform isn't magically a competitor to the other, when even Sony stated a few years back before the PS4P released, that they wanted PC gamers to move to their new refresh system, that they saw that as a means to take some users away from another platform opposite to theirs. Nintendo's own advertising clearly shows that they want the kids out and about, showing off their Switch device, even trying to get parents in on it, just like they did with the Wii, only back then they had granny and Grandpa's going for it as well.

Sony saw PS4P as a means of luring some PC gamers away, which by default, has them seeing PC as a competitor that they want to court them and have them game on their platform instead. Nintendo uses their mobile games as a means to get you to game on their Switch system as well, meaning they don't want you to game on your phone, hence why you get a small bite sized portion of Nintendo themed games on there, instead of the whole damn catalogue of older titles on there.

The mobile sector is definitely a competitor to all 3 of them, even PC, even in terms of users, revenue, profits and devs on board, so no, trying to lie about it to suit this one way street mantra, isn't going to do anything.

Can we please end this thread?, because if I so much as hear the same excuse or "not a competitor" muttered one more time, I'm just going to get all kinds of nasty, because I loathe ignorance and a narrow minded mindset in terms of industry knowledge. If there's nothing more to actually add to the topic, that isn't the same answer from 2 weeks ago, then let it die. 



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