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Pemalite said: 

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Okay, so a heads up, I was a mechanic who learnt, built, maintained and managed cars for a long time. So my knowledge in cars is what I consider decent. 

You say ground clearance is to save lives.. well I disagree with it especially since it doesn't explain the enforced rules of many other car mods etc. I learnt this the hard way when I was 21, I lowered my car professionally to the lowest limit Australia rules allowed, I was fined and was asked to raise my car because of my extractors hanged slightly lower than the chassis which made my entire car illegal to drive.. $800 later I had no choice. Was it a safety issue? My car was tested and was able to actually handle better than the standard cars off the production line and I never scrapped underneath. So more handling in Australia's terms is consider unsafe.. that makes no sense to me.

Also doesn't explain why Neon lights are considered a safety issue, Tinting your windows too dark is a safety issue, having a loud exhaust pipe being a safety issue. I can name plenty of enforced rules Australia does that has no bearing on safety. Also If a licensed driver cannot tell the difference between Emergency lights to Neon lights under cars than maybe they shouldn't have a license and use our roads. We are not talking about replacing our brake light colours to green. They are pointless ground lights that only add to your visibility to others. So more visibility and handling is bad.. that's Australia's logic.. oh wait, its to fine innocent people.

So do you think any of the mentioned above is to save lives or to control people? I can tell you its all about controlling people.

I understand you deal with car wrecks but blame the drivers not the cars. Its the exact same logic you are using on blaming guns instead of the killers. Both Cars and Guns can be used as weapons and cars are much more dangerous since they are tons of metal that can also take any idiot on the road to kill people.

Sooooo you say video games are not to blame in Australia because we don't have shootings.. so why the heck do we still ban and heavily sensor video games in Australia? Why cant I buy Hatred on Steam? We don't have Guns, but we still blame games for peoples actions. Give the government an inch and they take a mile. That point is exactly what happens.

Lets look at Russia, a country who enforced gun laws to avoid more killings.

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https://www.usacarry.com/guns-russia/

Strict Gun Laws and Less Guns But Higher Murder Rate
While Russia has far fewer guns in circulation than the U.S. and strict gun laws, Russia has a much higher murder rate, according to Russia Today. Russian police also regularly seize guns from the public and melt them down, like recently in the Rostov-On-Don region, according to the website.

Approximately how many non-military guns are registered in Russia? Are There many un-registered guns there? Are most Russian crimes committed with unregistered guns?
According to the same report, the Russian Federation holds approximately twelve million unregistered guns illegally. Russia requires gun owners to register all guns. Police investigated about 26,500 crimes related to the illegal circulation of weapons, at that time.
Unregistered weapons or weapons acquired by a person who used it for criminal purposes make up the majority of the weapons used in crimes according to various reports. While Russia maintains relatively restrictive gun control legislation and strict procedures regulating the purchase and storage of firearms by private individuals, there is a huge black market in Russia for weapons. Most weapons used by criminals are stolen military or police guns, guns sold by law enforcement personnel who seized illegal weapons from criminals and did not register the confiscation of those firearms, or firearms made from modified non-lethal guns, according to a legalization of weapons article on the Russian NewsRU website.

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Now after reading all that, my point is that America has a culture issue not a gun issue. Because as Russia has been trying to change for the better, the criminals still get the guns.. and don't tell me the USA doesn't have a black market scene either. Its probably even worse than Russia.

You keep comparing Australia to America. Just because Australia did it and it worked doesn't mean it will work in the US. When Guns were allowed in Australia, we had a very strong Western culture, that changed over the years, that's what really stopped the shootings, not removing guns. Also AUS doesn't have the same issues as the US as they have a huge black market scene, Gangs and the crime is much more different.

End of the Day, if we don't change the culture than these crimes will continue to happen regardless if you remove things from the public. The blame game is easy when you don't like something but reality is its not the Gun that kills people, its the people that kill people.

Last edited by Azzanation - on 13 August 2019