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sundin13 on 11 August 2019
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Azzanation said:
GoOnKid said:

Sorry to bust in but I think one major reason for this entire argument is that you believe the problem was binary, when it's actually not. This is not a question of 'either this or that', it's rather a spectrum. Having stricter gun laws does not automatically mean that the government takes anything away from you. It also doesn't mean that suddenly these massacres vanish over night. But it's a first step to decrease the chances of such massacres. That's what this is about. We all know and agree that bad things can happen anytime anywhere, but what anti-gunners simply want is to decrease the chances. This is really not that hard to grasp.

If laws were stricter the amount of guns will decrease slowly. Again, this is not binary, so it won't happen over night, but we're talking about slow processes that may take several years of time. And then next, with fewer guns in the wild, chances will logically decrease that guns will be violated and therefore fewer people will die unnecessary deaths. Everybody would be safer in general. Wouldn't you want that, too?

I understand both points however its not those who buy guns from shops that are the ones going on these killing sprees. Its also not what Americans want by removing freedom from there citizens because that's basically what it is, removing freedom from those who didn't do anything wrong. Just because some mental idiots go on rampages doesn't mean we need to take away things from the good people.

What you guys want is for the US to phase out guns completely to a point where its like Australia where you can get guns but its extremely difficult that its basically not worth it. 

How about ban cigarettes because they cause more deaths per year than these shootings. DO we take cigarettes away from people? DO you stop people from driving cars? do we take the extreme to avoid these death tolls because we care about saving lives, or do you just hate guns and so guns are to blame but anything else that can kill you is okay because a road death is different to a shooting death.

Human culture is to just point the finger because something has to get blamed, lets not blame the culture.

Lets say we put laws on guns in the US which will make it harder to buy weapons, over the course of the years guns start to phase out, shootings still happen in this time frame, so the government has to place blame on the next closest thing, weather that be to ban video games or censor them like they did with Hatred in Australia where I cannot purchase the game due to its violence. Is that what we want? because that's what will end up happening.

If we love lives this much than ban everything because a life is a life.

First of all, I want to say that I fundamentally disagree with most of your points. It seems to almost exclusively be based out of the slippery slope fallacy which isn't exactly a great argument, but I feel several other have done a good job of rebutting those points.

So, I just want to ask: Out of curiosity, what is you opinion on how we solve this mass shooting crisis and generally reduce homicide/assault rates?