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Rafie said:

Again...the machine runs MOST games at 1080p. Sir that's not a lie. I didn't say every game. Most games. So you making a list of games it doesn't was a wasted effort because I've already acknowledged that the PS4 doesn't run every single game at 1080p.

Now you're debating semantics about the Switch. I told you I don't have a problem with the Switch at all. I love it! However, the Switch is a console as well. Not just a handheld. So no it's still counted as a console like the PS4 and Xbox One. Let's not go trying to save it from criticism from a criteria (hardware power) you yourself have criticized the PS4 for. You said the PS4 is weak hardware wise. I said that the same criticisms should also go to the Xbox One and Switch. That's fair. You chose the strongest hardware of the 3 and said it was weak, but didn't extend that to the other 2. Now whatever you personally feel about the PS4 is your business. I'm talking about your claims about it being a PS3.5 and a one-trick-pony and all that jazz. I'm focusing more about the hardware claim against the other 2. The Switch doesn't get left out of the power discussion if you say the PS4 is weak. That's only fair. It would be the same as you saying the PS3 is weak and only puts out sub 720, but you don't say the same for the Wii. Having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware is. Otherwise the PS4 would mirror the Xbox One fully.

I really doubt most games run at 1080p.  Most are not 1080p at 60fps.  That's specifically is the issue.  Sure, some games run 1080p, some games, run at lower resolutions, but locked at 60.  But they're not doing both.  Most games aren't doing both.  So the hardware is weak.  We've known this.  When I got my PS4, it was packed in with a game I'd played plenty of, on PS3.  The PS4 was also lacking features the PS3 had.  That is why it's on my list.

As for the Switch, it doesn't matter.  I can be biased towards the switch.  This isn't the Switch vs. PS4 vs. Xbox One.  This is Switch Vs. Wii U Vs Wii, and the rest of the Nintendo consoles, which none of which I've owned, because I never saw a reason to buy or spend time on any of them.  The only one that got a look from me was the Wii U...  until I saw someone playing it.  It was warioware.  Yeah, no....  But, this is PS4 vs. PS3, and Xbox One Vs. 360 Vs. Xbox (one) :P.

I like the switch for the hardware.  It's the best Nintendo console ever.  So of course it's not going to be on a list of the least like consoles of the big 3.  It doesn't fit.  It is literally 100% better than the Wii U, which also came out in this same generation.  No other company has recovered so much from a failure like that.  Though the only one to have failed so hard  to begin with was SEGA anyway.

The PS4 is a PS3.5.  There's nothing that it's doing that's new to the table.  Over the PS2, the PS3 gave us HDMI, multi-media functionality, blue tooth technology, seven-player support (shame it wasn't really taken advantage of).  PS4 just gave slightly better graphics, and reduced functionality, and forced people to pay for online services to play...  For no reason other than to line up Sony's pockets more.

About the PS3.  Tekken 6 runs sub 720p.  And that's a valid point  but the PS3 also plays PS1 and PS2 games.  Some of the good games that are in the PS4's library originated on PS3.  But, it also gets to be one of those things.  PS3 released in 2006.  It's 2013, and we still can't reach our target standard resolution for games?  The jump from 1080p to 3840p is greater than 720 to 1080.  So, for simplicity's sake, if the PS5 can't hit 1440p for every game at 60 FPS, that would be worse than the PS4's not hitting 1080p, and so much worse than the PS3 being sub 720 in a few games.  Yes.  But, we all know the PS5 will have ryzen in it, so it's saved.

And you're right having features doesn't have nothing to do with how strong the hardware it.  But it does have something to do with how strong the hardware is.  Doesn't the PS4 feature a better GPU over the Xbox One?  Not that it matters today.  You can get an Xbox One X, or even better, a PC, if you really want something nice.