Was Epstein murdered and should we care?

[HylianSwordsman]

Bandorr said:

HylianSwordsman said:
Y'all are too conspiracy happy. Doing something like what's being suggested would be too difficult to cover up if an investigation were to follow. The murder would be caught, and they'd be in even deeper doodoo. No, this was indeed a suicide. However, it's very possible that the people responsible for preventing a suicide were paid off, and that the space and method for him to do this were provided to him. It's also quite possible that he was encouraged to do it, or possibly "encouraged" to do it. That would all be much easier to hide than an actual murder. I'd be interested to see the visitor logs and maybe hear any phone calls he made.

Murdered in this context means outside means. If I talk you into killing yourself, I am responsible for your death. I am a murderer.

If someone took him out of "suicide watch" and put him back in his cell with the intent for him to kill himself - I'd consider that murder.

If he was given the tools to do it. If he was encouraged to do it. Or "encouraged" (IE threatened) they are different versions of murder.

OR at least if you want to be technical some variation of manslaughter, or involuntary manslaughter.

Fair enough, I'd agree with all points here, I just thought what was being suggested was a more hands on murder, which I'm skeptical of. Supposedly he had damage to his neck, so I figured people were imagining someone being paid to strangle him.