House minority leader trying to blame video games for mass shootings. Update: Walmart pulls violent video game ads for 2 weeks

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Azzanation said:

Pemalite said:

Drugs don't kill people, people taking drugs kills people.
Ergo drugs should be legalized and readily available in brick and mortar stores right?

You can try to take Drugs away from people.. guess what, you will be only taking Drugs away from good people, the bad guys will still have Drugs. That will be the outcome because Drugs are not the issue, its deeper than Drugs.

Exact same argument.

I do have to ask though legitimately after poking holes through your highly flawed logic, why are you ignoring how successful other countries have been in enacting gun control? It's saved countless lives. Are lives not highly valued where you come from?

The same arguments you have presented could also be leveraged for the legalization and sale of Meth in brick and mortar stores, if you cannot see how such rhetoric is ultimately flawed... And if you are willing to ignore the substantial evidence that many developed nations have in regards to the success of gun control... I am not sure you could be convinced of anything at this point... And thus perhaps this entire discussion is moot?

That is a flawed logic on your end. Taking drugs and buying a gun are two completely different things. How can you even say they are the same thing? Buying a gun is harmless, buying a car is harmless. Both can be used in a very dangerous manner and they have both killed people. Your comparison is like saying, buying a gun is no different to eating Rat poison. Umm.. yeah is it, Meth is bad, it harms your health, there is no bright side to taking meth. Having a gun is like owning a Sword or big Knife, it can be used for hobbies, people like to collect etc. Drugs? That's a face palm.

You are answering your own debate. Try taking drugs away from people, we have, how has that worked in the land of no drugs? Do people still take drugs? do people still die from drug use? Do drugs still get sold regardless of the law enforcement? You should know the answer to that.

Great, place more laws on gun control, I want them too and I understand people can still have guns with laws in place.. however my debate with you is that it wont make a difference because criminals and killers will still get the guns and still go on massacres. Do you actually think by adding more laws with guns that these things will suddenly stop? especially in a country with a massive black market scene? Why do we have a big death toll on the road? People have to go out and get a license, we enforce the road rules a lot, especially in Australia.. why are there still deaths? Nice having rules in place, feels more like government control than actual life saving. Same with guns. 

You know who else didn't want the public to have guns? Hitler. How did that go for Germany, oh that's right, the public was dictated and couldn't do a thing about it. They couldn't even defend themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Ding Ding.

Took longer than expected.

You keep mentioning the fact that there is a massive black market scene in the states regarding the sales of guns, what you mean by that is that it's possible to get a weapon illegally in the States very easily, one of the major contributing factors for it being possible for a person to get a weapon where they shouldn't be able to get it... is because there is lots of weapons readily available to a great many people within the law, if I want to get a hold of a gun here where I am I'll need to do some digging around to firstly find a person with one that I can then try to buy it from, if every other person around me could legally buy a gun then it would become a whole lot easier for me to get one by offering someone of my daft mates who needs cash some to go buy me a gun to use.

Take it back to the war on drugs, how much harder would it be to prevent people illegally taking drugs if you were to open up stores which sold drugs to people legally? So you could prevent people from getting access to drugs if they were going to take them to get high or to abuse the substances to the point where they self harm or harm others.... but you perfectly allowed anyone who seemed to have a solid head on them and know how to correctly keep their drugs locked up in a safe where they didn't hurt anyone, so everyone who was planning to keep the drugs and not shoot.... up with them, could buy loads of drugs and keep them in drug safes. Realistically now.... how much more easily would it be for someone who wanted some drugs to do harm with... how much easier has it become in that scenario for them to get drugs from someone? That is why you have such a large marketplace of buying guns illegally, because there are tons of them in circulation there sold perfectly legally to someone, then either stolen or sold to someone who already has a criminal record and wants a gun for a crime.