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the-pi-guy said:
sundin13 said:

Out of curiosity (aka because I want to see something other than Trump's tweets discussed here), who are you supporting in the democratic primary and why?

Either Warren or Sanders.  Healthcare is probably my number 1 issue, and I view the direction they are taking with it, as a positive one.  

It'd probably be the single biggest thing that would positively impact my life.  

It's terrifying to have to decide whether an issue is worth going to the hospital for.  It's terrifying to have to weigh whether something could be life threatening, and if it isn't, then it's not worth the cost of going in.  

Yeah, Warren is my number one personally. I would really like to see her differentiate herself from Sanders on the subject of healthcare during the next debate if there is any daylight between them, but I would also like to see more focus on reducing the cost of care itself and not just changing the health insurance system. 

Actually, just in general I'm curious how they will separate themselves from each other. At first I was disappointed in the debate lineups but the more I think about it, I think it is really important for Warren and Sanders to figure out which one is going to be the leading "progressive" candidate here so hopefully this debate moves some votes around one way or the other.

EricHiggin said:
sundin13 said:

While I don't know the story behind that gif, I would like to politely inform you that this is not how consent works.

Legally maybe, but if you spent any time on a dance floor at a club, you'd pass out in disbelief after seeing so much disregard for the law by both genders.

Why does the vid end where it does, and why didn't she report him if she felt he violated her without consent? Isn't that how that works?

No.

First of all, "a lot of people are committing sexual harassment so it is fine" is not a good argument.

Second, consent isn't something that should need to be provided retroactively. You don't grope somebody and then figure out if they were fine with it after the fact.

Third, there are thousands of reasons why someone wouldn't react in the moment they are sexually harassed and thousands more why they wouldn't report it. Rape and sexual crimes are woefully under-reported (even moreso when this gif was taken). That doesn't make them okay. Whether or not someone reports the crime or slaps their harasser doesn't matter. Often they are frightened or embarrassed or they feel like their statements wouldn't be believed or taken seriously, or feel that people would act the way you are acting here.

None of these are good arguments and they display a profound lack of understanding of both the psychology of sexual victimization and the moral and legal responsibilities of an individual who is initiating sexual contact.

KLAMarine said:

What four congresswomen is Trump referring to? Still not seeing names.

Names! I need names!

This is probably the silliest argument of all time...

Just, ugh...why? Its so trivial...

Last edited by sundin13 - on 19 July 2019