tsogud said:
KLAMarine said:
"Why does it matter whether or not he used their name?"
>Because the accusation is that he used the race of the supposed four congresswomen (which he never named in his tweets btw) to determined they didn't come from the US. I see Tlaib and I see Ilhan and I think "hmm, I wonder if they were born here in the states?"
Nothing racist about it, it's simple logic.
"It is equally bad to use a person´s name as a measurement of whether or not the person is an equal citizens to you or not."
>I don't recall Trump making any such measurement in his tweets. He said "go back, fix those problems, then return to the US."
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Actually he did mention them in his tweets
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1151327083110510594?s=19
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1151451067437191168?s=19
The fact that you don't even know that is very telling, especially since it can be easily researched.
KLAMarine said:
More like others just get ahead of themselves.
"-You can't assume someone was from somewhere else."
>Sure you can: at the risk of being wrong.
"-You can't suggest they go back there."
>Why the hell not? It's a suggestion, not a command. No one is forcing anyone to go somewhere against their will.
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The fact that at one of his recent rallies his supporters shouted "SEND HER BACK!" regarding Omar and Trump did nothing to stop them shows that it basically has the same meaning to him and his supporters. "Send her back" is definitely not a suggestion, it is a command.
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"Actually he did mention them in his tweets
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1151327083110510594?s=19
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1151451067437191168?s=19
The fact that you don't even know that is very telling, especially since it can be easily researched."
>I'm not seeing names in those tweets.
""Send her back" is definitely not a suggestion, it is a command."
>Did Trump shout this as well?
MrWayne said:
KLAMarine said:
"Trump is the president of the United States"
>And does that give him the power to remove someone from office or a citizen from the country?
probably not but that the country's most powerful man toying with the idea, is still problematic.
"there are people who seriously want to revoke the citizenship of people like Ilhan Omar"
>I think you need to meet special criteria to achieve that, it doesn't just happen.
yeah you would probably need a majority among the people, mighty supporters are needed to achieve that.
"there were times where certain groups(blacks and women) didn't have full citizen rights in the US"
>Well it's 2019. Let's talk 2019.
It's 2019 and Alabama made abortions basically illegal, something many people couldn't imagine happening in the 21st century. Don't take any of your rights for granted.
"Do you think it is ok to threaten political enemies in such a way?"
>No. What threat are you talking about?
A threat is a threat even if there isn't a immediate action to it.
"Would it be ok for you if what Trump said becomes reality?"
>That "progressive" congresswomen go to some country and help fix its problems? And then come back and "show how it's done"? That doesn't sound that bad. That actually sounds kinda cool.
These four women are elected for the US Congress, all they should care about are their voters and America. Why do they have to pass such an unrealistic test? If every american politician also have to be an successfull politician in a nother country than non of your politicians would be in office.
It doesn't sound that cool anymore if you think about it.
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"It's 2019 and Alabama made abortions basically illegal, something many people couldn't imagine happening in the 21st century. Don't take any of your rights for granted."
>Is an abortion a right? Isn't that a privilege?
"These four women are elected for the US Congress, all they should care about are their voters and America. Why do they have to pass such an unrealistic test? If every american politician also have to be an successfull politician in a nother country than non of your politicians would be in office.
It doesn't sound that cool anymore if you think about it."
>No one is saying they HAVE to pass any such test. Do you not know what a suggestion is?
