| Azzanation said: Ugh it does and can change everything. Infinite might not sell asmuch as Halo 5 due to a digital future and Game Pass. Does it make it a decline even if it rakes in record profits much like Halo 5 did? I can make a graph showing how much money Halo makes which is more important than physicsl sales, as sales dont tell the true story here. Also the pretty graph you made is correct as they show a decline over the years, but lets not ignore as digital gets bigger yearly so a physical decline is expected. |
No. It changes nothing. There is still a decline in total sales even if we account for digital sales like you alluded to prior.
As for actual profits... That is an entirely different argument, not once have I stated that Halo as a franchise is not raking in profits, don't shift the goal posts.
| Azzanation said: And to prove my point is that modern Halo games have outsold the previous Halo games on average (yes except 1 in Halo 3) Reach and 4 eclipsed 1 and 2. Halo 5 failed i agree but that doesnt mean the franchise is in decline. Its 1 game. |
Again, the graphical graph represents a decline in sales. The fact you are trying to argue against mathematical facts and figures is pretty interesting.
I have added a green line to as better represent the overall decline.
As we can see... We peaked with Halo 3, declined to Halo: Reach, declined again to Halo 4 (Albeit slightly), declined significantly to Halo 5. The trend is that there is an overall decline... The evidence is literally here, you can't deny it at this point... Unless you are being disingenuous.
| Azzanation said: I am amazed so many people are willing to jump on Halo over 1 underperforming game (which probably sits on 6m to 7m possibly higher than Halo 1 and 2. X1 is not a creditable platform. It has alot of bad press which would have affected sales. OG Xbox and 360 were consoles that were praised by the critics and gamers. Alot easier to sell to the public. |
Those smell like baseless assertions... And assertions can be discarded until you can substantiate that with evidence like I have done.
...The Original Xbox also sold less consoles than the Xbox One... It's Microsofts worst selling console. - Have you forgotten that when you looked at Halo 2's sold numbers?
| Azzanation said: A better question would be how many Halo 5 games would have sold on the PS4? |
I don't care about the Playstation 4. Don't mistake me for a console gamer.
| Azzanation said: Is your argument going to say Mario 3D World put Mario in Decline because that game umdersold on a platform in a similar situation to the X1 when it comes to reputation? No. 1 decline doesnt put the entire franchise in decline plus it takes 1 game to put it back on the map as we have seen with Mario Odyessey, Zelda BOTW, God of War etc. |
I don't care about Mario 3D World. Don't mistake me for a console gamer, our discussion is currently with Halo, stop delving into logical fallacies.
The decline in the Halo franchise... Again... Look at the graph is more than 1 game.
And you are right, it only takes 1 game to put the franchise back on track... Which is why more than once I have openly stated that Halo: Infinite needs to be judged on it's own individual merits.
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