sundin13 said:
EricHiggin said:
Charity - An organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need, or, the voluntary giving of help typically in the form of money to those in need.
You're only allowed to give away help if you want absolutely nothing in return? Even a simple thanks as a pat on the back? You realize without having done what people have to do to earn that money, they wouldn't have the money to give away in the first place right? Money that in no way do they have to give away. That's not worth one word to show the smallest amount of appreciation and respect for their contribution?
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"Allowed"? I haven't spoken a single word about being "allowed" to donate to charity. Why are you going off on random tangents that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand? The conversation isn't about who is allowed to donate to charity. That doesn't even make sense. The conversation is about what it means for someone to donate to charity selfishly, something which you have provided several examples of.
As for whether it is worth respect, I'll respect Trump for donating to the National Park Services when he stops actively going against the mission statement of the National Park Services in every other move that he makes. I'm not going to praise someone for taking one tiny step forward when the rest of the year they have been sprinting backwards at full speed...
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The definition says nothing about the giver.
Well there you go, another way in which to point out something bad so you don't have to acknowledge the good.
SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:
Yet you wonder why some people are the way they are? Ever think that some people were reasonably or highly generous, only to have it thrown back in their face anyway because of whatever faults they may have? Ever feel yourself like you're not getting what you want out of something, so you stop caring as much or quit altogether? Why bother being generous if all you're going to get is hatred thrown at you for doing so, when all you may want is a little respect? Why bother acting the way people expect you to if you're never going to please them anyway? Why not just do whatever is best for you in that case?
Maybe Epstein did it out of guilt. Would that make it better? Knowing the good cause that money has helped, would you rather that money not have been accepted and let those who could have had better, suffer instead? Should the British have given back NA to the natives, or is the situation better off the way it is now? What saints we all are...
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Generosity is indifferent of praise for said generosity. That's ego.
Generosity is giving to charity because you have an altruistic drive to do so irrespective of external motivating factors (praise, tax write off, etc...)
Ego is donating to charity and then bragging about it or complaining when you aren't recognized for it.
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SpokenTruth said:
EricHiggin said:
1). Charity - An organization set up to provide help and raise money for those in need, or, the voluntary giving of help typically in the form of money to those in need.
2). You're only allowed to give away help if you want absolutely nothing in return? Even a simple thanks as a pat on the back? You realize without having done what people have to do to earn that money, they wouldn't have the money to give away in the first place right? Money that in no way do they have to give away. That's not worth one word to show the smallest amount of appreciation and respect for their contribution?
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1). Charity.
2). Ego.
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The definition of charity says nothing about the giver.
Why should anyone give to charity? Because in one way or another it stokes their ego. It just depends whether or not that form of ego is seen as acceptable to some people. Other people couldn't care less where the money comes from, within reason.
