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Snoopy said:
the-pi-guy said:

Everybody understands the video is poking fun at the "hypocrisy" of the "liberals" who complain about capitalism while benefitting from the progress, the technological achievements and the wealth that it has given them.  

Just because someone disagrees with the conclusions of the videos, doesn't mean they don't understand that it's trying to make that point.  

Other countries have more government involvement with healthcare for one, with far better results and at far lower cost. 

Government involvement isn't inherently good or inherently bad, it's up to the policies that the government sets up. 

Not true, only certain aspects are better. For example, Canadians have a longer wait time and way higher taxes. Not to mention the cost for basic commodities in Canada is a lot more expensive than America's products. This is all thanks to government interference. When the U.S. government got out of certain health care aspects such as lasik eye surgery the cost went way down.

No small wonder since most Americans can't afford to go visit a doctor nearly as often as one does in the rest of the world. Going sick to work rather to the doctor because either you can't afford the doctor or not having enough sick leave anymore/saving sick leave for later that year is something most non-Americans only have WTF as their reaction. And even then, the difference in waiting times is in most cases negligible.

The price for commodities has nothing at all to do with this. That's false causality.

Laser eye surgery went down a lot in price worldwide to to technological advancements, not due to any government involvement. Or why do you think my mother's bill in Luxembourg was projected as 12000€ 11 years ago (It wasn't covered yet at the time, so she refused to go through with it), but when she went last year (coverage began in 2015 iirc), it only cost 1800€, over 80% less expensive - and she got her money back from the health ministry.

(For reference, you generally pay in advance here in Luxembourg and get your money, or part of it, back. Operations and Rehabilitation are fully covered and generally paid directly by the health ministry, Antibiotics by 80%, normal Painkillers 60%, other medicines which are proven to work at least a bit 20-80%, Vitamins and the like without any therapeutic proofs are not covered at all. Private Insurance companies do exist and they can offer to bring additional coverage, but except for dental prosthetics (100% coverage instead of 60%), these are very seldom used)

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 14 July 2019