| Snoopy said: Not true, only certain aspects are better. For example, Canadians have a longer wait time and way higher taxes. Not to mention the cost for basic commodities in Canada is a lot more expensive than America's products. This is all thanks to government interference. When the U.S. government got out of certain health care aspects such as lasik eye surgery the cost went way down. |
In Australia I can walk into any hospital and be seen almost instantly, for free.
Our healthcare is significantly cheaper... And we get far far far better quality care, you literally don't know what you are missing out on.
The American health system is old, inefficient, expensive and ineffective from top-to-bottom... I would rather be ill in Australia than the USA.
| Snoopy said: We can have a great safety net through private charities and we can have a lot more job opportunities and reduce artificial inflation by getting the government out of our business. Most of the big corporations that are corrupt are helped by the federal government. The biggest example is the pharmaceutical companies. It's one of the biggest reason why medical care is so expensive. They pretty much closed out all outside competition thanks to the government. Historically, there hasn't been a better time to live. Yes, we do have issues, but it pales in comparison to the past. We are living better than most past kings/ royal familes for god sakes. |
Private Charities can also drive up inefficiencies as they try and make an extra buck for their own ends... Plus many charities tend to be religious in nature, lets remove religion from the equation wherever possible, freedom from religion, right?
The big pharmaceutical companies are just one aspect of your health systems inefficiencies, our Government dictates the pricing on medicine, companies still make a profit, patients get cheap medication... Everyone goes home happy.
And if you are worried it will cease innovation in the medicine field, it doesn't happen. - Plus the Government will invest in R&D anyway which reduces costs and keeps innovation happening.
The flip side is, you still get pharmaceutical companies competing against each other, thus capitalism is still at work.
Years ago there was a movement by some political parties here to almost "Americanize" parts of our healthcare system... It was a political shit storm... For good reason as it would be a regression on all fronts.
Fact is the vast majority of the western world have proven that a universal healthcare system is the way forward, the way to go to provide higher quality and cheaper care.
| Snoopy said: Making health care free makes it where people go to the hospital for the most trivial BS. Not to mention the doctors are in a hurry and more prone to make mistakes. |
Doesn't happen... This is just baseless scaremongering.
Nurses and doctors will do a quick assessment of a patient to gauge how urgent a patients needs are and go from there... Often if it's just a small issue, they will tell them to go to a private clinic instead. (We have one next to the hospital here.)
| DonFerrari said: The class that benefited most from capitalism is the working class. Going from needing to work 16h a day just to eat to 8h and have plenty of luxure is a great bonus |
It was mostly left-wing socialist "unions" who made the push to 8 hour work days...
Socialism, Capitalism... None of it is intrinsically a bad thing, most western nations have found a really good balance between the two and have made some great strides. (I.E. Large swathes of Europe and Oceania.)
It's when either gets taken to far/extreme that issues really start to crop up as there are Pro's and Con's to each approach.
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