Official 2020 US Election: Democratic Party Discussion

[Torillian]

Snoopy said:

Torillian said:

I mean if anyone who commits a crime is a criminal then most everyone deserves jail time. I assume you don't think everyone who gets a traffic infraction should be in jail. Unless there's something special about illegal border crossing that you think makes it a jailable offense beyond the overly simplistic and almost childish "it's a crime". 

Finally, let's say they are criminals, if they're sick should we just leave them to die or should we treat them? Because that's what "considering illegal immigrants as people" means; not letting them die. 

They are criminals, why do you think they call them ILLEGAL? Not our problem if they get sick. There are billions of people who get sick on earth, doesn't mean it is our responsibility to take care of them. They should fix their own Country instead of leaching off of us.

well I mean shit if they call them illegal you got me there, not like politics could play any part of that decision and they used to be called undocumented. 

https://qz.com/1336110/its-illegal-aliens-not-undocumented-immigrants-says-the-us-department-of-justice/

If I call you an illegal poster can I decide you're a criminal that should be jailed without having to make any real arguments about why your illegal actions are more meaningful than some other non-jailable illegal actions?

You're right, we're not responsible for anything citizen or not, but I'd rather not specifically let people in this country die if I have a say in it.