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HoloDust on 07 July 2019
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Wyrdness said:
HoloDust said:

I'm hoping you don't expect list of things you can do in Morrowind that you can't do in BotW - because that list would be a) rather long, b) pointless.

Morrowind has different kind of freedoms, that BotW does not have, some of them are "all style/no substance" like BotW, some meaningful (like skipping main quest all together and finishing game)

I'm glad that you and others were enjoying those freedoms in BotW - for me, as I said, they are just fluff, and not present where it actually mattered (as you said, I've talked extensively in Zelda thread abou it) - so ultimately, no, BotW just pales for me compared to game such as Morrowind were you have freeedom on so many different levels - which is to be expected since Morrowind is sandbox RPG, BotW is sandbox action-adventure, constricted by it's very genre.

You're free to do as you like but what you've posted is untrue and ultimately the is far more BOTW can do that Morrowind and other games can't and that's the point and one you couldn't debunk in the other thread we're not talking about for you in general we're talking objectively you admitted in the other thread you never intended to explore the freedoms BOTW offered I've actually explored the freedoms Morrowind offers and the irony it's the more constrictive game in its freedom if you prefer Morrowinds approach that's fair enough but BOTW allows far more freedoms to the player and yes they are present when it matters as well as shown in numerous videos.

Well, I could claim the same thing - I have nothing to prove to you and as I told you, I have no intention of compliling a list of what Morrowind can do that BotW can't, there's plenty of threads and videos out there about what can be done in Morrowind, it's very old game after all, so if you're interested look it up.

If you're ultimately satisfied with BotW freedoms, well then good for you I guess, for me they are (mostly) of meaningless (Just Cause "fuck around") variety since they are not supported by more meaningful freedoms in game design, which Morrowind has - and given that you think Morrowind is linear and constrictive, I'm starting to wonder how much you've actually played it.

But since we'll never see eye to eye about this, there's really no point in going any further.

Ultimately, Morrowind was 8/10, BotW is 7/10 for me...so there so much actually to improve in both approaches to open worlds...which will not happen to full extent, and I keep repeating this in various threads, until we have fully physics based, yet persistant simulated worlds (which i can only see being done with someting like voxel octrees or something similar) and AI shipping with game trained to act as DM and able to improvise on the go.