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CuCabeludo said:
DonFerrari said:

That was the standard.

PS4 was the first time they were able to break even at launch with only a game plus PS+ subs. And in like 1 year were already breaking even on the HW alone.

No doubt that, both sony and ms will take losses with their next consoles for at least 2 years. MS can take such losses easily, but for Sony which depends a lot on their gaming department, it will be a heavier task.

Sure, MS can. Xbox, however, can not.  I think this is the reason we've been hearing lately that the PS5 is more powerful. MS is going to have a decent box, but they don't want to lose a bunch of money on HW, so I think they'll launch at break even, maybe a slight loss. Sony, on the other hand, is more willing to take larger losses up front, since gaming is a big division for them. Gaming for MS is a much smaller focus, and gaming HW even smaller, hence them taking a bigger leap into streaming and PC gaming, as of late.

I think the most likely outcome is that they will both launch at $499, but with Sony taking a larger loss, they will have the more capable HW.