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Machiavellian said:

EricHiggin said:

So let me get this straight. You clearly dislike pretty much everything about him and everything he does as President, and yet he's just an idiot puppet to the elite pro con artists who are conning him into doing that they want done?

So why are you so mad at Trump then if he's a victim in this situation? The elites just keep ruining his life. Where's the support for this survivor?

Nope, I actually do not dislike Trump at all.  I do not have to like or dislike someone to have an opinion of them.  As I have stated, some of the stuff Trump tackles are legit issues, it's the fact that he is incompetent as the person to tackle those issues is the problem. 

Not sure why you believe I am mad at Trump just because I believe he is an idiot.  Why should I feel sorry for him when he plays the game just like any player.  Hell, I wouldn't even care if he goes another 4 years.  If he is this glorious leader you believe, I would definitely want you to get the full experience.  Trump has been the most entertaining President in a long time.  People who probably never followed politics know about positions and the people in those positions due to Trump more than any other President.  

The problem with you is that you always try to make even the most bone headed thing Trump do or say into something positive which is fun just seeing you work your magic.  I haven't notice any analogies from you lately but I am sure you will throw out a few once you get back up to speed.

Machiavellian said:

Its the same situation with your example of "Grab her by the _____".  The media did not claim anything because anyone who was interested heard exactly what Trump stated since they all but Fox News played the whole tape.  Yes, we did here him say "They let you grab them"  We also heard how he just goes in and kiss them without consent stating they let you do it because you are rich.  The complete context was a man who decided to brag about taking advantage of women because he was rich.  Just think about it, sleeping with some Porn star while your wife has just delivered your child.  Hell, Trump has cheated on each one of his wives, that is pretty much what he does.


The thing is you are trying to make Trump out to be this moral person which he is definitely not.  You only have to do moderate research on Trump to see that he has always been a grifter.  Does that mean he would be a bad President, actually no it doesn't.  None of the moral stuff Trump has done would actually be a knock on him as a leader.  The knock on Trump as a leader is that he is an Idiot.  You can look throughout his pass and see that he has always been this big BS artist who has lied about his wealth and his business prowers but in reality he is just a con man and not a very good one.  

Well based on your, 'showing people who they are' logic, If you don't dislike Trump, then are you condoning the things he's said and done, like the things stated above? Talking about woman like that, cheating on his wives, conning and swindling people, etc?

These things don't necessarily make him a bad leader as you mentioned, so does it make him a bad unlikable person, or do you find that acceptable and attractive? If his immorality doesn't make you mad or upset, I don't know why you would bring them up as points against him, if you're really being honest in your rebuttals.



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