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the-pi-guy said:
Azuren said:

The real question is why do the crime rates of native-born citizens matter in a discussion about immigrant crime rates? What immigration policies will prevent native-born citizens from committing crime?

Because the matter isn't about preventing crime.  The point of the post above isn't that native born citizens commit more crime, and that there should be a policy to handle it.  

The point of the post above is to point out that illegal immigrants are not inherently more violent than regular citizens.  The point is that illegal immigrants are not the violent monsters who are raping, murdering and pillaging left and right that some are trying to claim they are.  

Except they do still bring crime at a much higher rate than legal immigrants, crime that would happen much less if immigration policies were addressed and improved. The point made by those discussing crime committed by illegal immigrants does include the disingenuous claims that they commit crime at a higher rate than citizens, but the point that people who are acting in good faith would point out is much of this is crime wouldn't even be in the country in the first place if there was better border security.



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