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MrWayne on 25 June 2019
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eva01beserk said:
MrWayne said:

You probably meant "state appropriation of all businesses", the word "all" is very important because almost all capitalist economies have some state owned businesses. The second sentence is also wrong, "state appropriation of all businesses" is the very first step in socialism and not a last resort, there is no socialism without the public ownership ( through the state or Worker cooperatives) of almost all businesses.

So Bernie missing this core characteristic of socialism in his policies is very important.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-election-nationalizations/factbox-venezuelas-nationalizations-under-chavez-idUSBRE89701X20121008 

Venezuela did not started by nationalizing all the industry, they did  some at a time, and at the beginning none where taken over. When ever they needed more money cuz they destroyed the first buisnes they took over, they move on to the next one. The latest things they took over was personal homes to turn a area into a turist atraction.

The same will be with berni and the rest of the democrats runing on socialism. When its ovbious that they cant pay for it, another sector will suffer and so on and so on, just like venezuela.

So Venezuela didn't immediately went socialist the moment Chavez was elected, I got it. 

Look I'm not a Socialist and I don't want to defend Socialism nor Maduro and Chavez, they are awful but it's incredibly dishonest fear mongering to say the "far left" democratic candidates will turn the US into a failed socialist country like Venezuela. Bernie, Warren and co have very moderate policies which have been in force in other countries for decades without turning those countries into "shithole countries".

Hell Germany has a form of universal healthcare since 1883 and I'm unaware that Germany is known for ruining its economy or that Germans are known to be lazy.