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MrWayne on 24 June 2019
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eva01beserk said:
MrWayne said:

No that's not what I said, of course you can call Bernie a Socialist but equating him with Maduro is quite dishonest, it's like equating Rosa Luxemburg with Stalin.
Also just because a politician or partie is called socialist does not mean it actually is socialist, for example many center left parties in europe have Socialism or even Komunism in their name but they aren't socialist at all. You have to look at the concret policies.

Im not equating him to maduro, Im equating to chavez, the one who started it all. Like all socialism its all great and dandy in the beginning, as things start going south they slowly start taking from the rich then the middle class then when there is no one else to take from you get what was promised, no wealth inequality as everybody is poor now. Maduro already had a turd on his hand when it was handed to him.

The only thing missing for berni to be full socialist is the state appropriation of businesses. But like all socialism that is a last resort that inevitably end up resorting to, cuz guess what after a million examples, socialism does not work. 

You probably meant "state appropriation of all businesses", the word "all" is very important because almost all capitalist economies have some state owned businesses. The second sentence is also wrong, "state appropriation of all businesses" is the very first step in socialism and not a last resort, there is no socialism without the public ownership ( through the state or Worker cooperatives) of almost all businesses.

So Bernie missing this core characteristic of socialism in his policies is very important.