By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close
RolStoppable said:
potato_hamster said:

Aww that's sweet how you're stretching to claim the PS3 "was more powerful" than the X360. Good one.

That's not a conclusion that a console launching before the other would be less powerful than the one launching later. That's an assumption. You're making an assumption. If the PS5 launches before the XB Scarlett and is more powerful, your assumption would be wrong. Concluding that this will not happen is foolish. What was that about thinking carefully about what you post?


News flash Rol: You don't decide what credit Nintendo deserves. Also, define "behave like a Nintendo fan". It seems to me that you have an image in your head of "what a Nintendo fan is" and anyone that doesn't fit that is faking it. That's not up to you. I know plenty of Nintendo fans that thought the Switch was a bad move before launch. I know some others that still prefer their 3DS to their Switch.  I know plenty of other Nintendo fans that aren't too happy about the games situation on the Switch and how that has evolved, and how it's AAA third party support is still total shit. I suppose in your mind none of those people are Nintendo fans?

Once again, treating your opinion like objective truth does nothing but make you look bad. But hey, who needs facts when they have feelings, right?

Pemalite agrees with my assessment that the PS3 was more powerful than the 360. I bet you won't dare to respond with the same condescending attitude to him.

You keep telling me how I am making assumptions when I say that a definitive call cannot be made at this point in time, but you should remember that Moriarty is making the biggest assumption of all in claiming that it is a sure thing that the PS5 will be more powerful than Scarlett. But instead of calling Moriarty out for his very questionable assumption, you keep defending him while attacking me. That's very hypocritical.

If someone said that they are a PS fan and made a prediction that Switch will become the bestselling console of all time while the PS5 will tread water because it's a crappy and boring console, then everyone would question this supposed PS fandom. That's Moriarty's situation when it comes to his supposed Nintendo fandom.

The types of Nintendo fans you mention are Nintendo fans, and in the order you mention them they are:

1. Clueless. I am aware that quite a few Nintendo fans are like that. I made threads to address them, among others, a good two years ago.
2. A matter of preference. There are still 3DS developers that have yet to put a game on Switch.
3. Another matter of preference, although this example reads like overexaggerated anecdotal evidence.

As for your concluding paragraph, I tell you what. If you get a moderator to agree with your posts in this thread, then I will reconsider my stance.

Pemalite is a big boy and doesn't need you speaking on his behalf or namedropping him to try and lend yourself credibility. But, see he actually bases his opinion on verifiable facts, supports his opinion when question, and most importantly, consistently demonstrates that he has done the research and understands the things he talks about the vast majority of the time. You on the other hand... I've let you dig yourself into a fine little hole there, and you're obvious to it.

See, as it turns out, you actually don't have a clue what Moriarty said, do you? You just read the headlines. You've been making blind assumption after blind assumption, when all you had to do was listen to a minute long audio clip, and I'll demonstrate just how you let your opinion of him sway your better judgement, and just let yourself assume that what he said must lack credibility. So here. I did you a favor and transcribed it for you.

"[Reiner] had been hearing rumors and I had been hearing stuff like this too, but I don't know if it's true - that the next playstation is definitively more powerful than [Xbox Scarlett]. That people that have access to both [developer kits] for making games are saying the playstation is more powerful. Now that is a scary notion to me, because if a machine is running a game at 120 frames in 8K, I just don't believe that that's even possible. I think you have to choose one or the other. Otherwise this machine is gonna be extremely expensive and if Playstation 5 can do even better than this - and I don't think they're saying they can do better than 120 or 8K - but if it's more powerful then how much are these machines gonna cost?"

But please, let me distill that down into a TL:DR because it's you know, one paragraph has proven too much in this case: That he's saying that the PS5 Dev Kit is rumored to be more powerful than the Xbox Scarlett Dev Kit, and that this could mean the PS5 ends up being more powerful than the Xbox Scarlett, which could mean that the PS5 will be far more expensive than he would like it to be.

Sacre bleu! Incroyable! Stupefiant!

Look at those "it is a sure thing" bold statements! ...that he never actually made! 

What was that about "questionable assumptions"?
What was that about "hypocrisy"?
What was that about "Clueless Nintendo fans"?

And yes, it would be a dick move to question someone's Playstation fandom if they really liked what they saw in the Switch, and thought it could sell better than the DS, and saw everything going on with game streaming, liked what they saw there, and thought that Sony releasing nothing more than a more powerful PS4 (If that's what PS5 turns out to be) wasn't doing enough to maintain or expand their position in the home console space. Those aren't totally unreasonable opinions to have in the gaming community. It would literally mean that they're not some blind fanboy and are open and receptive to new gaming experiences, not just supporting the products one particular company makes because they made them. I also fail to see what's so unfathomable that someone who spent their childhood playing as Link, Samus, Mario, Star fox, Smash Bros etc. day after day, year after year, would have more fondness and love for those games and those consoles than they would for a brand that only came into relevancy much later and has had a revolving door of hit franchises, even if that's their platform of choice for the last decade or so. There are tens of millions of Playstation and Xbox owners who have very similar stories who still consider themselves Nintendo fans even if they haven't bought or owned a Nintendo console in 15 years. They're not wrong to call themselves that even if they found the SNES classic much more desirable than anything on the Switch.

Also, laughable that you act like the opinions of a moderator will sway you when you have tomes worth of posts doing nothing but criticizing, questioning, undermining, and distrusting everything they say and do, and showing complete and utter fits of unsubstantiated paranoia that the mod team has it out for you. But all I have to do is to get one of the mod team, who almost definitely has a poor opinion of you to agree with my posts, when I know you're paranoid enough to think they could be doing that out of pure spite? So, hey moderators, what say you ;)