0D0 said:
Let's check: NES 60m SNES 50m N64 30m GC 20m Wii U 13m How the statement, as you put it "Nintendo's homeconsoles have declined as long as I exclude the Wii." is incorrect? Wii is the only console that breaks the rule. Isn't? When you have a rule and one single thing that breaks the rule you have an exception to the rule. Isn't it? That's not how you define an exception? Which rule? The rule that NES sold 60m and every other Nintendo home console sold less than that. Isn't? Is that false? So, Nintendo's home consoles have been shrinking since the first one. Wii is an exception that I must point out. Is that false? How? NSW is at least a hybrid console (if not a handheld), not a truly stationary home console like the past consoles and PS and X. Besides, it's not a past console, it's a current selling console. So I can leave it that off my statement now if I want. If you say NSW is a home console like Wii U and NES. Ok, now you have Nintendo breaking the rule again. Which I disagree. Why I disagree? Because I don't put NSW on the home console category. NSW is much smarter than that.
No no, I was told that I was being unreasonable before I asked to prove that God doesn't exist. So that cannot go into the evidence that I'm being unreasonable. :) I've got some statements that I don't discuss for the simple fact that they're not worthy being discussed, as I said before: - Nintendo home console business has been decreasing since ever (except Wii) from 60m NES to 13m Wii U. - Nintendo left the home console business after Wii U. - God exists. The first one for me is very clear, as I replied above. The second one is due to the fact that since NSW has come out, I took the position that it's not a home console like all the home consoles that have been sold since the first home console. It's at least a different beast, a hybrid. Of course it can be discussed. You can absolutely try to prove me wrong while I try to prove you wrong. But I guess we've all have discussed it before. If you and the other posters here want to open a thread to discuss if NSW is a home console or not, well, do it and let me know. If it's sidestepping. Fine. If you think I'm coward, fine. I'm didn't come here to this thread to win anything. That's all. The third statement is just to show exactly what kind of material the other two statements are. We can also discuss the existence of God. Is it worthy it? Will you change my mind? Will I change yours? We don't have enough time for that. |
I'll put it simply for you, your argument is hinging on ignoring the Wii and saying the NSW is not a console the problem is the NSW is still a device competing in the home console market whether you choose to see it as a console or not. This means that the home console market decline you're arguing has not only been broken by the Wii but by the NSW as well and also debunks your claim that they left the market as they're still very much in it with a new type of device so you trying to remove these two from the equation is seen nothing more as you moving goal posts at this point as your only response to these two contradicting your view is you choose to ignore them well that doesn't strengthen your side of things it in fact weakens it especially as the replies to you are elaborating their views. Your argument is like someone saying an smart phone is not a dedicated camera device so doesn't count in that market despite the fact that many people buy them for that exact feature/function as well putting them very well in that market.