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RolStoppable said:
linkink said:

Almost everybody agrees there was no saving the Wii U. you haven't proven anything, Kinda just seems like you are delusional. Most agree japan vastly prefer's handhelds, just because you think something, doesn't mean it's proof. Can you explain why N64 sold respectable numbers in US, yet flopped in Europe? or why xbox one flopped in europe yet is selling good numbers in the USA, it's not all about software. Preferences, Brand and desirable hardware play a major role. you even bring a pathetic argument that system just launched starting selling 50-60k a month cause there wasn't no releases for a couple of months. 

Yes, there was no saving the Wii U. Part of why is that its software pipeline was broken right out of the gate and the droughts started immediately after launch. Software sells hardware, so if there's no new software for an extended period of time, the hardware won't sell. That's why Wii U sales were so bad so quickly. Conversely, there were bumps to hardware sales when new software got released.

Yes, Japan prefers handheld consoles because they are more convenient and the only advantage that a home console can provide nowadays are better graphics which hardly anyone cares about. Still, if home console or handheld console was the only thing that mattered, the Vita should have sold better than the PS4. Since that didn't happen, the logical conclusion is that games are more important than the console itself. But since you keep being in denial that games matter, we get posts from you where you claim that the software droughts of the Wii U did no harm to its sales.

It's pretty easy to explain why the Nintendo 64 as well as the Xbox One sold respectable numbers in the USA, but not elsewhere. The rate of multiconsole ownership is historically much, much higher in the USA than anywhere else in the world, so international struggles of a console don't translate to the US-American market in the same way. The costs of electronics as well as disposable income allows US-Americans to buy more consoles as well as games than people of other countries. Indeed, it's not only that the average gamer in the USA buys more consoles, but also more games per console. The USA leads the world in tie ratios by a comfortable margin. An additional reason for the relative success of the Nintendo 64 and the Xbox One in the USA is software that appeals to the market. The Nintendo 64 heavily dominated the FPS genre in its generation, the Xbox brand in general has the image of the American console because of its software library.

Signalstar said:
Alternate take:

The Wii U was such a colossal failure that Nintendo had to combine their handheld and home console departments just to beat the PS4.

It would make more sense to say that Nintendo reacted to Sony's decision to only support one console going forward. Sony announced in mid-2013 that all of their American and European studios were going to make PS4 games, so Sony's exit from the handheld market was already a done deal at that point. If Nintendo hadn't combined their home console and handheld efforts, they would have been the only console manufacturer to support two separate consoles simultaneously which is an obvious competitive disadvantage.

Do You mean in Japan only nobody cares about better graphics?

Shiken said:
linkink said:

earn sympathy over what? this forum is a waste of time, honestly it's not good for me. i kinda have to thank you for getting me banned last time, and this time as well. i'm wasting time here talking about video games sales, when i haven't played a game in months.

If you are talking about my posts in thread, you are gonna change what i think. there many sales  experts on resetera that think the same, when switch was selling it was universal that everybody thought was see what happens when nintendo makes appealing hardware. 

Well seeing how this is a sales forum, and based on your  tendency  to predict on bias alone, yeah I would say this forum is not a good fit for you.  Also if you like arguing as you say, it helps to actually have a good argument.  Anyway, see you next time you come to "admit you are wrong" when the Switch passes 100 mil.

It'll not.

:P

:D

DarthMetalliCube said:

Sony seems to be becoming far more Western-oriented with their games, and Nintendo is focusing on portability with the Switch, which the Japense tend to value. So, not too surprising, but still somewhat impressive considering the depths Nintendo had sunk to there during the Gamecube era compared to PS2 less than 2 decades ago.

Nintendo's been a handheld company since GBA. Their strength, soul and success are on handheld only. Leaving the console market was a brilliant decision.



God bless You.

My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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