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sundin13 said:

The example that I immediately think of is bathrooms, and I find the fear over allowing transgendered individuals into bathrooms corresponding with the identified gender absolutely ridiculous and overblown, so you will have to elaborate a little more if you want to argue that point...

I most often hear about the sports issue at present, but as you wish:

The concern from where most feminists that I'm aligned with are coming from when it comes to bathroom access isn't so much worry about men who legitimately believe they are female using women's restrooms as it is concern that opportunists without this confusion will for purely voyeuristic purposes at best if we, as transgender movement activists suggest we should, collectively allow literally anyone who claims to be female to use women's restrooms.

Here's a concrete illustration of what I mean:

Last month, two groups of American high school students in Nebraska walked out of classes at around 10:30 AM local time: a group of about 20 girls saying they felt violated by the presence of a boy in the girl's restroom and a separate counter-protest consisting of about 40 of their classmates (both female and, notably, also male) supporting the boy's ostensible right to be there. The boy has recently started claiming to be female, which both state law and federal guidance now obliges Abraham Lincoln High School to admit him to the girl's restrooms. There appears to be no evidence that the boy is doing anything to transition beyond claiming to be a girl, and hence even some girls who support the transgender movement are skeptical of his claim to be female.

The main reason why girls and women need separate bathrooms and locker rooms and shelters and such is safety. Physical safety. You are exposed and at your most vulnerable in spaces like these. The fear of rape specifically is the main thing that makes girls uncomfortable with the presence of a boy in the girl's restroom. That's what these girls are experiencing. I think that's serious anyway and that they shouldn't have to experience that fear daily at a taxpayer-funded high school.

The other side argues that the boy legitimately struggles with dysphoria and feels most comfortable in the girl's restroom and that that's the issue. Okay, well at least 20 girls feel uncomfortable with him being there: where is the concern of the law for their comfort? Why does the ostensible discomfort of one boy outweigh that of 20 girls in importance?

Last edited by Jaicee - on 02 June 2019