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CGI-Quality said:
RolStoppable said:

The problem is on the people who think that crossing 10m with a few games puts Sony on the same level as Nintendo who have had several IPs surpassing the 20m mark in the past and Switch allows Nintendo to do that again after a botched generation with the Wii U and 3DS. When 10m is considered a different level than 5m, then 15m constitutes a different level than 10m, and 20m is a different level than 15m, and so on.

For console sales, you wouldn't make some arbitrary rule where everything above 50m should be considered the same level either. You'd insist that there's still a clear difference between 50m and 100m, for example.

A lot of truth to this.

I can dig the idea of Sony entering a realm once dominated by Nintendo, but I get why it is being challenged. Remove personal preferences and the opposing argument keeps its strength. On the flip side, it's still good to see such growth once only imagined by Gran Turismo. 

A lot of truth on what? On Sony 1st party games selling the same as Nintendo 1st party games?

I already exposed numbers as fact in this thread so everyone could see what Nintendo and Sony have done in recent years. What "personal preference" has anything to do with that?

Wich "several IP's" have surpassed 20M on home consoles like Rol said?. Are we counting handheld games now?, games that are sold at a cheaper price than home console versions and that require a cheaper console to play them?? Do we count Mobile gaming sales then here too? Because not a 3D Mario, not a Smash Bros, not a Zelda, not an Animal Crossing, not a Splatoon game have sold that much. Just Wii Sport alike games (which were heavily bundled games on the Wii), 2D Mario games and Mario Kart games. So please, we shouldn't act as if selling more than 20M is the norm with each Nintendo Ip.

Just before Switch, the best selling 3D Mario was Super Mario 64 on N64 with almost 12M sold. Best selling Zelda game was Ocarina of Time on N64 with almost 8M sold. Best Smash Bros was Super Smash Bros Melee on Wii with almost 13M sold. Best selling Animal Crossing was New Leaf on 3DS with almost 11M. And to find the last Pokemon game that sold 20M or more we have to go back to the original GB, because recent Pokemon games on DS and 3DS have been around 15-18M sold.

I see a pattern here of similar numbers....

Until Switch those were the landmark of best selling Nintendo games  in more than 20 years of Nintendo history. Those records for those games were around 10-20M sold, a number Sony wasn't even close to reach except for Gran Turismo games until PS4 came.

Nintendo is doing so great with Switch that they are even surpassing those numbers and records for those IPs, but you know what, Uncharted, The Last of Us, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spiderman are surpassing those records too.

Last edited by colafitte - on 22 May 2019