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colafitte on 22 May 2019
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RolStoppable said:

colafitte said:

Where did you get the notion that Nintendo's pace over the last 9 months has been much faster than Sony's??.

First of all, Nintendo numbers are shipped, Sony's numbers are always sold to consumers. That's an important point to note.

Second point. Uncharted 4, is a perfect example of legs. The game was announced to have sold to consumeres 8'7M by the end of 2016. So in 2017, 2018 and half 2019 the game has sold another 8M of units to consumers....That's are very good legs for me. Horizon Zero Dawn, started with 2'6M sold to consumers in 2 weeks, 7'6M sold to consumers in 12 months, and "more than 10M" sold to consumers after 24 months, so another 3M sold in a year. I'm pretty convinced that GOW and Spiderman will match that level of legs and even surpassed them.

"Nintendo has lined up more for the next 9 month than Sony". What?. Do Days Gone, The Last of Us Part II, Dreams, Ghosts of Tsushima, Death Stranding disappeared all of a sudden??. What new games does Nintendo have for the next 9 months to match those games??. Super Mario Maker 2, Pokemon Sword& Shield, Animal Crossing and......what exactly? What i am missing? Do we count unannounced games??

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe increased by 6.3m in the last nine months, Super Mario Odyssey by 3.2m, Breath of the Wild by 3.4m, Splatoon 2 by 1.9m. SSBU released to 13.8m, Pokémon: Let's go is at 10.6m, Super Mario Party at 6.4m. Do Sony's releases measure up to that? No, they don't.

Sell-through vs. shipments hardly matters. In order for shipments to grow over time, copies of the games have to be sold through, otherwise retailers won't order more.

I think it's highly optimistic that you expect all the Sony games you named to release within the next nine months. Likewise, I don't expect all Nintendo games (such as Luigi's Mansion 3) to be released within the next nine months. One thing that is important is that Nintendo releases a higher quantity of games. Titles like Fire Emblem, Astral Chain and Daemon X Machina won't add much to the grand total (especially not the latter two), but those little things add up over time.

I gave you numbers of Uncharted 4 and HZD. Did you not see how i said that U4 sold anoter 8M in 2'5 years and HZD sold anoter 3M last year?!?!?! And TLOU has the best legs of them all...

Do GOW, Spiderman, DG releases similar to those games you name??, OF COURSE THEY DO. ?¿?¿

LOL at this point. It matters when you are comparing numbers of course!! If one is shipped numbers and the other is sold to consumers, the first one will always have added numbers the other doesn't. Another oportunistic point of yours. If it was the opposite you would not say the same....If we were counting shipped numbers for Sony games we probably should add 1-1'5M more to each number depending on the game.

Days Gone, TLOU Part II, Ghosts of Tsushima, Death Stranding are made to be big sellers, and maybe they launch in the next 9 months or don't, do you know for sure?. All of those games will launch before 2020 ends anyway as Sony stated. I named Dreams like i named Super Mario Maker 2. Neither of those are guarantee either. I will admit SMM2 has better chances though.

What?, that Nintendo launches a higher quantity of games?. Are we forgetting games like Concrete Genie, Medievil Remake, and all PS VR games that are going to launch this year??

At the end of the day, Nintendo could still sell better, but the point of this thread was that Sony is in a situation where they can compete to Nintendo regarding sales, and the mere fact that we are doing this right now, discussing which games will sell better or not, is proof that the original point of the OP was right.

Last edited by colafitte - on 22 May 2019