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DonFerrari said:
vivster said:

What we're talking about isn't a baby. It's a bunch of cells that don't even have a heart beat let alone a heart. I'm pretty sure it's not murder if you kill something that isn't even alive.

It is alive, and depending on the place you look abortion is permitted even after there is a heartbeat

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/02/addressing-new-yorks-new-abortion-law/

This have that until 24 weeks it is open to the mother to abort, after it then you have risk to the mother or preganancy not viable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetal_viability

A fetus when reaching 24 weeks already have a 40-70% chance of living if given birth instead of killed.

It is permitted only in cases where the mother's life is in danger or there's something seriously wrong with the fetus. In which case when you abort you are not losing a life, you're saving one.

But we're not talking about 24 weeks here, we're talking about less than 10, at which point there is nothing alive that even resembles a human.



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