John2290 said:
Why do I keep having to repeat. The story beats for the most part were good, some great but they fucked the execution and ruined the characters for me in my mind. I hate Arya now, see Jon as a weak fool and Tyrion as a dumb shit because they had so little development, just skipping from beat to beat like robots. About 70 percent of the beats were good aside from the ending paths which I don't believe George will follow. Danys madness would have been AMAZING Had it been done right so would Jon killing her if the romance wasn't fumbled, Arya killing the night king all that shit but they scene cutting, jumping around and time skipping with no hints to it, so much happening off screen and so on plus the cringey ass dialouge toward the end. It could have been sooo good. All the dead ends like Azor ahai and the lord of light for one example. However no, George will not be following this because the books can't develop this way from the way it diverged in ADWD and everything that was cut in the show. Not exactly anyway, there will for sure be a large divergence and on what does hit the same notes will get there through fairly different paths. I can't imagine him giving the main character such little development either. |
Well, the fact that you perceive Arya, Jon and Tyrion that way suggests they did develop but you just didn't like the direction in which they went. Jon started acting weak and foolish after his resurrection which actually makes a lot of sense. Tyrion has been making foolish decisions after he left Westeros (and started heavily drinking) and his arc has gone from devilishly clever to humane but foolish drunk. He's developed in the polar opposite of Sansa's arc because of the weight of his actions leading up to his adventures in Essos. Not sure what you have against Arya, as that pretty much went as I expected.
Also, I think a lot of the time skipping has happened because they only have one story arc to fill. If you think back to the Shireen episode, Stannis was on screen of about 5 minutes at the start and 5 minutes at the end. We had a host of other story arcs to fill it in the middle giving the perception of time, but a lot of the development was off screen. I think they should have compensated for this by having more screen time for build-up, but there is also an argument to be made that they would have been dragging it out.
And of course there is a large divergence, the cast would have doubled if the show followed the same path as the books. But GRRM has written himself into a complex web of a writers hole that who knows if we'll ever see the final books. The final events, arcs and ending are what GRRM told D&D. It's one of the reasons the show's Dorne story was so neutered was because they knew it had so little impact in the end.
