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haxxiy said:
Scoobes said:

You get that this is George's ending, right?

The way they got there has deviated, but this is the ending as GRRM explained it to D&D before even the first season.

Martin started to share future plot points around 2013 - 2014 by his own admission. He wasn't convinced until about the fourth season was filmed that the show would overtake the books. That after unsucessfully pushing for AFFC and ADWD being adapted to three seasons instead of one.

This is very unlike the Harry Potter movies, where, for instance, JK Rowling shared with Alan Rickman his character's motivations even before the first movie so he could portrait Snape accordingly. All actors seem to have been flying blind as to their characters fates and motivations, on the other hand, from what Emilia Clarke, Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Pilou Asbaek, Ian McElhinney etc. have said.

Either way, I'd be disappointed with Martin too if certain plot points are the same. The execution will likely be much better, yes, but thematically?. Remember when Martin posited the interesting questions of whether Aragorn would be a good ruler, after all, and what would ultimately happen to orcs and baby orcs after Sauron was defeated? if his answers are a magical boy on the throne and all the Others exploding into ice at the same time, then... eh. Whatever.

I've been following the ASOIAF forums from before the pilot was filmed. GRRM gave them the overall ending before the first season. When it was obvious the series would pass the books he fleshed it out with certain events like Shireen and the truth about Hodor.

Edit- I suspect GRRM and Rowling's writing styles are very different, otherwise GRRM would have finished ASOIAF already. GRRM write very organically and has set events in mind (like the magical boy and exploding the Others, lol) but writes his way to them, often restarting if he doesn't like the direction it heads. Hence why the actors wouldn't know the motivations as GRRM doesn't yet.

He has the advantage that he can actually write the character perspectives however. We'll probably get Bran chapters fleshing out that particular arc into something more substantial.

Last edited by Scoobes - on 20 May 2019