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EricHiggin said:

Machiavellian said:

Lol, Don't even bother throwing Trump in with Ben.  On a daily basis we see that Trump is still the same person today as he has been every day of his life.  Not only does Trump doesn't promote to be different or changed from his past he relishes it.  He has always been a grifter and con man, a total idiot and straight up fraud and nothing today has changed any of that.  He still lies to his constituents like they are stupid and you still defend him.  I have read The Art o the Comeback just like I read the Art of the Deal, and both shows Trump hasn't changed a bit.  I ask if you have read either or are you still drinking the kool aid that Trump is somehow some great businessman.

At least with Ben you can say he is trying to make a change but talking about something and actually doing it are 2 different things.  When challenged he came up short.  The next time he should do better, definitely prepare better because no one takes anyone serious unless they can prove they have changed not just looking for others to change while they stay the same.

I wasn't talking about change, so I don't know where you got that from. I was talking about how they react and respond to those who typically aren't coming at them from a point of good faith. Now in terms of a reporter or interviewer, if they actually did their opposition homework, in terms of someone like Ben, they won't have much to throw at them, which is a problem since that's somehow their job, so it's no surprise how they go about their questioning. It's also no surprise how people like Ben respond to them because of this. While he could have handled it more professionally, it's not like what he did was totally uncalled for.

That would be perfect if Trump actually did not attack first and then response.  You act as if no one has viewed his behavior before during and after becoming president.  How he is the person first to start the name calling, belittling and other crap.  Give me a break with this BS you are spilling about Trump, we have way to much evidence of his character for you to try to justify how he acts.

As to Ben did you see the interview.  Ben has every instance to throw those quotes back at the interviewer and show how he has changed from those stance but did not.  As was stated, you cannot talk about change if you cannot prove you are changed.  You cannot profess to be above something if you still wallow in it.  Nowhere did Ben show that he could prove his words and thus they become hollow.  As always apologist like you will always turn a blind eye when someone shows you who they are instead of listening to their words.  Action is way more effective then some book or a bunch of words.