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sundin13 on 07 May 2019
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NightlyPoe said:
Shaunodon said:

Exactly, "wants to believe..", though you clearly see he knows in his heart she's gone, and the more he tries to deny it the more wine he drinks. He's lost his edge ever since he started serving her, and there's strong indication that he may be in love with her too, which is why he doesn't want to give up on her. But the writing is on the wall. They've thrown every possible hint they can that she's going off the edge, and I can't help it if they've all gone right over your head.

You ever stop to think that it might be because Varys is the friend who saved his life and the closest person to whom he can relate to best in the world and Daenerys is his queen and he's being forced to choose between them?  If you actually watch the scene, Tyrion knows that beyond Varys's dressing his intentions up as nobility, they're discussing regicide.  Tyrion then asks Varys not to do it.  There's actually a moment of fear their within Varys.  He realizes at that point that he's committed himself to deposing Dany and Tyrion is not on board.

Seriously, are you going to expand your point out beyond that one line and pretend that they've developed more than that?  Yes, I know they tossed out the possibility.  There's a whole conversation between Tyrion and Varys about it.  There was nothing subtle about the notion.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't match the way they've characterized her this season.  That tells me that either they're incompetent and wrote her wrong, or there's a swerve coming similar to how they feinted the conflict between Arya and Sansa last season to ensnare Littlefinger.

You seem to be ignoring how eager Dany was to just kill all of the innocents in King's Landing again. If we aren't supposed to believe that she is slipping, the writers should have at least written it as a difficult moral choice. They didn't. They did not depict Dany struggling to make these difficult decisions, they depicted those around her temporarily reigning her in from doing the things that she wants to do (ie Kill the Innocents).

The way she is behaving has demonstrated that she no longer cares about her moral high ground. Luckily she has people around her who are able to reign her in so she has yet to act on these impulses, but someone else's moral platform is not a substitute for your own.