MrWayne said:
I consider myself to be politically left and I heavily disagree with Destiny on political violence, many of his viewers on his subreddit actually disagree with him on that topic. A few days ago he had a discussion with Hasan Piker and Kyle Kulinski. Kyle, who is probably further to the left than Destiny, also heavily disagreed with Destiny on political violence. So it's far from the truth that every lefty/democrat/whatever has the same stance on that topic, Destiny's stance is probably rather extreme even among them. |
I didn't say they did. What I said is the situations he is speaking of that he accuses Conservatives/the Right of doing are either factually untrue or exaggerated by Dems in charge. They are just playing off the emotions of their base, while ignoring stats and facts. They do the same by throwing racist and Nazi around so much it has loss all meaning.
I suppose I should have said many instead of the wording I chose, because that implies all on the left. There are still some good center-left people out there.
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
I don't speak for the "left", neither does Destiny because believe it or not, not every single person on one side of the political spectrum has the same opinion. Lumping everyone into one category every time you mention politics on this site doesn't help you out, it just makes you incredibly annoying. But i'm sure when people use terms like "nazi" or "far-right" or "alt-right" you'll be real offended by that and say how we shouldn't lump people together to falsely equate their viewpoints to that of lunatics ... I don't even agree with Destiny on that and when I read this reply I had no idea what you were even talking about. I literally had to try and remember just because what I brought up in my reply has nothing to do with that part of the debate. All I said was that on every single part where The Quartering had a disagreeing viewpoint with Destiny, he basically back-downed, agreed, and then either pretended like it was his opinion all along or flat out admits that he's just doing it for videos. Destiny's point isn't even that violence is necessary in the current political climate, I'm pretty sure he even states that in the debate. It's just that from his viewpoint violence has been justifiable in politics before and possibly could be, because from his perspective almost every positive social revolution had some sort of violence behind it. So no, this isn't the "face of the left". Just like any other moron with a youtube account doesn't speak for every right-winger. I somehow doubt that Destiny's anti-abortion opinions would be popular with most leftists. You are one of the worst commentators on this site, genuinely every time I get a reply from you or see you reply to someone else I want to gouge out my eyes because all you do is sit and talk about how everyone on the big bad leftie side is the same person, all you do is act like everyone is the same and anyone who doesn't fall onto one side of the political spectrum is suddenly the most cancerous person. It is infuriating to see someone have so much contempt for different views that they want to put everyone into one large box of crap. You make this site worse and I wish you would just go away... (inb4 "wow looks like I triggered another leftist cuck, censorship much???") |
Surprise surprise. Someone on the left wants to silence someone on the right. Is that all you have left, now? Demonize and silence? And yet you're not the fascists?
And no, he gave a few examples of what he says is going on currently that would justify violence. Of course, the difference between me and you is that I don't want him silenced. He should be free to say whatever he wants. Freedom of speech is actually important to me.
This will be my last reply in here, because I don't want to derail the thread further.
