At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

[Torillian]

eva01beserk said:

Torillian said:

Again, you have chosen an example where there are obvious detriments to supporting the child's decision. Show me the same for transgendered youth and you have a point. From what I've read supporting a child in their gender choices would be akin to supporting them in the colors they want to wear. It has no detrimental effects. Show me otherwise or stop with these crazy examples that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. 

And where the fuck did I say to take all their boy clothes and burn them and buy dresses? How is that supporting the child in their making a decision?

So you argue that there are more trans in the current generation than 0.5%? Can you show me anything that supports this because so far this (similar to your other claims) really seems like a "feels over reals" argument that I can't really argue against with facts and data. 

I dint mean that there are more trans now, I mean that its on everybody mind cuz its the hot topic. And I never claimed you said anything about clothes. It was an obvious hyperbole I made. 

Dint you just admit just a few post before that you agree with the at least 65% of kids regretting to be trans when they grow up? Then you also agreed to them being high on the suicide scale. Because of other people, thats debatable. But what if these kids grow up seriously confused cuz at 3 they made the wrong choice and you went with it? All the pain that people believe that trans go through would have happened at prepubescent age where no harm would occur. But if they regret the process at the teenage years after they form they behavior and manners and peoples expectation, its a lot harder to adjust. And you accepted that 65% of people regret the decision dint you? Would you take a life altering decision with a 2/3 fail rate from the word of a 3 year old who just learned how to talk? 

65% of kids go back to Cis, that isn't the same as regretting you were trans, that's just deciding you aren't. 

I agreed to them being high and then showed you data saying that if they are supported in their decisions (exactly what I've been advocating for this entire time) that they aren't any higher than their peers. 

What if the kid grows up seriously confused because they made the right choice and you decided to enforce what you wanted on them instead of listening to their feelings? 

And again, I ask what you propose as a solution then? Because my position is that you support the kid in whatever they decide and let them wear what they want and they can figure out things as they move on. You don't enforce either side, you support them in their own decisions. So in what way is that a life altering decision? You telling me that letting my 3 year old boy where a dress if he feels like it instead of enforcing the gender I think he is on him is worse? How so?