At what point is this child abuse? Trans kids.

[Torillian]

Immersiveunreality said:

Torillian said:

Under your definition making my kid eat his vegetables is child abuse. He's certainly suffering. Taking away my kid's tablet or turning of the TV is also abuse. 

I've posted research indicating that kids who are supported in their gender identity have no difference in mental health outcomes compared to the average population so where is the evidence that supporting a child in their identified gender is causing enough suffering to be child abuse? Pushing one or another gender on a child, sure, but that can go either way. If you don't support a child in their identified gender and instead tell them "no you're a boy" when they say they are a girl you are being pushy just as much as someone who pushed their child to be transgender. I am arguing that supporting a child in their decision is good, regardless of age. Help them figure out who they are. Calling such parenting child abuse is honestly disgusting. 

The comparisons you make are a bit ridiculous .

How can you even start comparing making children eat vegetables to deforming their image about their gender that when wrongly used can result into lifetime depression,did you ever meet someone in depression because of eating vegetables as a child? Because yes we all had to endure it and im sure depression over it is almost nonexistent.

If we discuss suffering in this thread we are clearly not discussing it on the same level as children learning eating food or having to clean their room and it makes me wonder if you even have the slightest bit of understanding about mental health when you bring that up to make a point.

Bolded: The people in this thread would like to have you notice that not all children are willingly having any saying into that situation and that not all children are capable to make a decision about such a mental deforming important matter yet till they are older and to counter you i do find it disgusting to ignore this reasoning because by doing that you erase the individual child to serve the ideology.

Again, stop just asserting that supporting a child in their gender identity is bad for them and show me the evidence. I've got research showing that trans youth who were supported in their transition have no different suicide rate than the general population. So, if you want to make the claim that supporting a child in that manner is causing them suffering then show me something other than your assertion. 

How in the ever living fuck is supporting a child in whatever they decide about their gender (even if they change it more than once) erasing the individual child? Seriously, draw that link for me. Because I have never said that forcing a child in either direction is the way to go so obviously that first part doesn't apply, and I've seen no research that supporting a child who thinks their trans who later decides otherwise is detrimental.