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Mandalore76 on 18 April 2019
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DonFerrari said:
Mandalore76 said:

Are you seriously using 2 stumbled launches that cost their platform owners nearly half the customers they had built up from the previous generation as a sign that the mass market consumer wants to pay $500 or more for a video game console?  The PS3 had sales at $599, sure.  But, was it "good sales" if there were 70 million less PlayStation owners from the previous gen?  The Xbox One had sales at $499, sure.  But, were they "good sales", if Microsoft may have lost 50% of it's own customer base from the previous gen?  I would say no based on just the fact that Microsoft does not even announce sold numbers for the Xbox One or Xbox One X.  When you aren't announcing milestones, you aren't exactly happy with your sales, are you? 

You are certainly reading it wrong, or with some different intent.

The point is that even at those high price point they sold well at launch, that is all there is. I even said that it will do much better at 399.

PS4 will end up selling 30M less than PS2 so it must have been a failure as well right? PS3 and X1 wouldn't ever sell near close to their predecessors because X360 was a worth contender for PS3 so even if PS3 didn't made major mistakes it would probably still sit 100-120M total, while PS4 was a much better proposition than X1 (besides MS only being relevant in US and UK) so it also wouldn't ever cross 70M.

Where did you get that from?  The PS4 has outsold its predecessor, won back lost marketshare, and earned a profit for Sony.  3 major things the PS3 didn't.  So no, I don't equate them as the same.  I also disagree that an Xbox One minus the disastrous launch couldn't have sold 70 million consoles.  The Xbox 360 sold 10 million consoles the year before the Xbox One launched.  The Xbox One never sold more than 8.6 million in a year during it's lifetime.  Not even before the PS4 hit it's stride with exclusives.  That's not because it's only relevant in US and UK, since the 360 was saddled with that handicap as well.