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EricHiggin said:

Biggerboat1 said:

I think the obvious way to interpret Trump having 'revolving door employment' is that the turnover is high relative to the norm of previous Presidents - it's really not that difficult...

Neither is pissing into the wind, but simply taking a few evident things into account would quickly reveal, aimlessly doing just that would be quite foolish.

Bofferbrauer2 said:

Seriously, you're missing all context here.

Again, nobody is saying that other presidents didn't have sometimes high turnovers. But as far as I know, none of them even came close to Trump's turnover rates. That's the context you seem to miss all the time, that Trumps turnover is very high when compared to other presidents in the past.

Your entire last segment just highlights that you missed the entire context. You compare to corporations and say that there haven't been many firings in the white house compared to that. We compare apples to apples, meaning US presidents from the past to Trump, not some random bad corporation boss to Trump in office as US president.

If I'm missing something it's not the expressed context. Some are. 

Apples to apples? You missed the point. How large was the Gov when it started compared to now? Much bigger Gov, in a time of promoted victimhood and (legal) retaliation, more problems? How much of an issue was the media for the Gov when it started compared to now? Much more (opinionated) media, instantly broadcasting worldwide, more problems? 

The climate is much worse today then it's ever been, did you know that? - Sure, everyone knows that, but what's your point? - Don't you want to know why it's changing and what's causing it? - Why would you ask that? That wouldn't be an apples to apples comparison anymore now then would it?

Bold 1 :

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here to be honest... You're agreeing that interpreting the revolving door comment isn't difficult (yet you failed to do so), and neither is pissing into the wind... Why is it foolish to note that Trump's staff turnover is extremely high in comparison to previous Presidents? Do you have a better comparison?

Bold 2 : 

So then why not just look at recent Presidents? The gulf is still there... So your point is?

And, yes, the climate is terrible at the moment, you don't think a big part of that is due to Trump's own behaviour? Part of being an effective President is knowing how to present yourself and communicate in a way which results in the best perception... Trump deliberately goes out of his way to be divisive, so pretending that he's some innocent bistander is ridiculous!

Let's get specific, in your opinion - what percentage of the high turnover would you say is Trump's fault?