SpokenTruth said:
Link 1 - Lists one or two firings for most presidents. Gets to Trump and points out 8 firings with a further 7 resignations. Link 2 - Holy crap....did you even read that article or just the headline? It completely shows just how bad Trump's turnover rate is compared to Obama. Link 3 - Article focuses more on how long certain cabinet secretaries lasted before fired/resigned. You should know by now that I will read your links and use them against you if you didn't. |
Link 1 - "Most", and you said others didn't at all. Bigger Gov, more media attention, highly negative towards Trumps sphere, higher turnover rate?
Link 2 - A comparison to the previous opposition Prez. What's wrong with that?
Link 3 - Does this not matter?
You should know by now I've made it clear I'm not a Trump shill. My fault for trying to offer a more balanced viewpoint. My apologies...
Bofferbrauer2 said:
The problem is not the firing people or the resignations in itself, as every President has this to some degree. The problem is the rate at which it happens. Trump has already more of them than many presidents who served 2 terms while he's just halfway through one term. |
Well when you have people getting hired and getting fired or leaving and coming up with book deals asap it makes you wonder. Maybe the problem is the media and opposition hate towards anyone tied to Trump, and the angry mob that magically seems to act on that. Why work for Trump if you can't even sit down and eat in peace at a restaurant off hours? When you see situations like when a 'journalist' wants to argue with the Prez instead of asking questions, and then aggressively puts his hands on a woman who's kindly trying to do her job, just so he doesn't have to give up the mic, why put up with that atmosphere?
Biggerboat1 said:
Do you even read the links you post? Or do you expect others to read them for you and report back? It almost makes me wonder whether you're actually just a very discreet troll - who keeps it toned down enough to stay under the radar. I mean the 2nd article's title is 'Trump's Vs. Obama's Resignation Rates Are Truly Mindblowing' and the 2nd sub-heading reads 'COMPARED TO OBAMA, TRUMP HAS LOST TONS OF STAFFERS SO FAR.' If you're not trolling, I don't really understand why you take the time to endlessly argue these points as you almost never change your position (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here by saying almost), even when the evidence you yourself post runs counter to your point... What's the point in engaging in a public forum when your ideas and opinions are set in stone? I actually find it satisfying when evidence or an argument forces me to change my stance on something because it means I've learned something - which is what we all should aspire to do - no-one comes out of the womb with all of the answers! You contribute a lot of time to this forum and come across as a smart enough guy, but trying to move you on a point is like talking to a breeze-block. Blinkered stubbornness is not a strength. |
I was replying to a point that said other administrations didn't have a revolving door, when apparently at least some did, depending on what level of turnover is deemed revolving door worthy.
Like I said above to ST, "You should know by now I've made it clear I'm not a Trump shill. My fault for trying to offer a more balanced viewpoint. My apologies..."
Machiavellian said:
Who said its not truthful. Basically you have about 3 books out there from different people. When all is said and done, its their word over Trumps even though some of the books has quotes from other people within the administration. Most reasonable people who has followed this administration would have a hard time believing anything coming from Trump since he has a hard time with the truth. There is no reason to not believe these people because multiple people inside the administration have said the same thing. If you only believe what Trump says then I would have to believe you have a Messiah complex. As to your second paragraph, you still throwing out words that has nothing to do with what I stated. I said top positions. You know, the ones that need the President approval so you can stop with the every single hire nonsense. Lets just limit the scope to the Cabinet positions which is the ones he personally put his signature on. As always you totally ignore Trump personal statement that he only hires the best people. I know, its just another thing you can ignore from Trump since it doesn't fit with your defense. |
Who said it is? What portion of those books are direct quotes? What portion of the book needs to be truthful to make the entire thing completely factual? There's only room for one Messiah and it's not Trump.
Just because Trump hires the best people, doesn't mean they meet his standards. Good enough for now until I can find someone better is sometimes necessary when you have as much to do and as much responsibility as he has, not to mention the constant negative media coverage, warranted and not. You can't just leave positions open for extended periods and expect to make worthy progress, even if that progress you make is less than you would like it to be.
