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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Charlesabl8770 said:

Forget about the Pro and the X, its not like they gonna have exclusive or separate, they just play the games at 4K with slighty better graphics

look at this: https://www.vg247.com/2013/01/07/xbox-360-and-ps3-losses-total-8-billion-ex-sony-employee-paints-grim-future/

Sony was trying to avoid the miskates like the ones with PS3, Microsoft well wanted to go greedy in the first place with the stupid always on kinect, always on DRM and $100 more

So you complain about being underpowered, but you cant think about the price if wasnt underpowered

Forgot to include that into my previous reply, but what guarantee do we have that there will be no games which won't run on the base consoles? After all, when the next gen comes out, supporting the mid-gen upgrades will be way easier than the base consoles. While it's not going to happen anytime soon, I could see that happen in around 2021-2022. Or they run as well as many later games did on a base 3DS, they were technically running, but with singe-digit FPS and thus almost unplayable.

that would make them Sony and Microsoft greedy, like EA:

-Instead of making the Pro and X, why they couldnt haven made the PS4 and XB1 more powerful in the first place? Instead of the kinect for the XB1, why not just for more power, in fact Pro and X just make devs put more time on their games

-Look at this: https://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/09/08/ps4-pro-the-ultimate-faq/

Q: Will PS4 Pro have separate or exclusive games?
There will not be any PS4 Pro-exclusive games. Because PS4 Pro and the standard PS4 are members of the same family, both systems will be fully compatible with all past, present, and future PS4 titles, including PlayStation VR. All PS4 games are PS4 Pro games, and vice-versa.

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on November 10 in North America, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update. Some titles previously released will be updated to take advantage of PS4 Pro features, including Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Last of Us Remastered, Infamous Second Son First Light, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and more.

-Look at many games like Spiderman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jStRBmQ2CGo, Same frame rate, Same Graphics, just make the Pro feel cashgrab