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forest-spirit said:
EricHiggin said:

It was only about the anti-democratic point. It wasn't really based directly on what is happening with Brexit. Either way, if the winner in my scenario didn't really have much of a plan and platform and wouldn't have gotten much accomplished anyway, then it wouldn't be much different. It's not like the stay side and the EU is going out of their way to make things super easy for the Brexiters to move ahead with their agenda.

The issue with your point is that no one is keeping the Leave-side from taking power, they are in power. The problem is that the Leave-side can't agree upon a single solution and that is why, three years later, Brexit still hasn't happened. Sure, the EU is not helping them but why should they bend over for the Brexiters? That's not their job, they should look after the interests of the union. And the opposition in the UK is doing what an opposition usually does in a democracy. They oppose that which they don't agree on. That's their job.

As I initially stated, it wasn't originally based on the Brexit situation, and I also did say it wouldn't be much different after the addition, meaning there still was a difference, because it clearly wouldn't be a direct comparison since it wasn't planned to be.

If the EU truly believes in freedom, rights, equality, etc, then why make the transition so tough? Is domination more important to them? Are they scared other countries will leave as well even though the EU is so great? How does making it easy for the UK to leave go against their jobs? It won't be hurting the EU because if the UK wants out, then what the UK brings to the union no longer matters because they don't want to be part of it. It's like the UK was never part to begin with. They are treating the UK like it belongs in the EU, as if it always has, which isn't the case. It's sort of like when a business says they lost money but what they really mean is they didn't make as much as they planned. That 'lost' money was never their's to begin with and isn't a loss, even though they may have been counting on it.

Opposition or not, politicians are there to serve the people. If the vote was held for all the people, and the majority chose leave, then it's their job to make sure it happens, regardless of your party. If your side lost, and you hold back the democratic majority from achieving what it wants, your not doing your job.