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Pemalite said:
Signalstar said:

I miss the days when you could just pop in a game and it would work automatically. The most convenient situation is if I have the game digitally, it is already on my drive, and there are no multi-GB updates needed before I could play. That is honestly so rare though. I share my PS4 with my bro and we have different tastes so we have to compromise which games are installed at any given time.

I still have my launch day PS4 basic. We even upgraded the hard disk to 1TB. I know that is a pitiful amount nowadays but developers should go easy on the amount of data they use. Any suggestions? I will probably upgrade the disk again and I heard external drives are useful too.

I might just buy a PS Now subscription and play through that library.

Same boat as you. I don't play my console very often, maybe once every few months... But when I do fire it up, the last thing I want to worry about is yet another silly update.
But.. I do however turn my console on twice a month to grab the free Games with Gold... So when I do that, I check to see whether there are any updates for my 400~ game library on my Xbox One X.

Having 13~ Terabytes worth of drive space for my Xbox has allowed me to keep my entire library installed and updated thankfully, which removes allot of the inconvenience factor, it's still there... But significantly less.

Basically the only real answer to your question is... More disk space for more games to be installed and check for updates more frequently.

Or just join the PC Gaming master race instead.

d21lewis said:

Keep it turned on so that the updates install automatically. Also (unless there are a lot of updates) most games let you start playing at least the intro after a couple of minutes.

What about electricity?

d21lewis said:

-Controller is probably dead. Whenever I'm finally ready to play, my battery is probably dead. I also have 3 PS Move controllers that stay on a charging cradle. Two of them won't hold a charge at all.

That's about it.

One thing I like about the Xbox controllers is the ability to hot-swap batteries, always have a dozen or so charged AA's ready to swap over... And when those batteries eventually (Not a matter of if, but when) die, I can easily replace them without dissembling or replacing the entire controller, lithium cells are usually only good for about 1,000 cycles give or take.

For me it's funny the complains about battery life on DS3 and DS4. On both consoles I had the same controler since I purchased the console (so 5y+ of use), playing daily for 2h, and weekend for like 8h. My battery life is still about a full day of playing on weekend.

Now because my son uses my controls to play on the other PS4 and never remembers to charge when it's low from time to time I can't just swap controller to let one charging while I play with the other. So I just use the usb outlet near the couch or could just use a 6ft cable.

For me it is much more convenient than purchasing plenty of AA batteries or remembering to keep the batteries charged.

Conina said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't trade ownership and being able to play offline just to avoid having to install games.

Me neither. The disadvantages of game-streaming are (so far) much greater than their advantages.

Nevertheless it would be the solution for the problems in the OT (waiting for installs and updates, not enough space for multiple installs).

For me that would be like trading a small evil for a very big one.

VAMatt said:
DonFerrari said:

I wouldn't trade ownership and being able to play offline just to avoid having to install games.

Good thing nobody is asking you to trade one for the other.  Streaming is not about to replace the traditional model anytime soon.  There is plenty of room for both, and many gamers can probably afford to subscribe to a streaming service *in addition* to purchasing games like they do now.  That is certainly my plan.

I didn't say you have to mandatory trade (although some companies are certainly looking in that direction), but certainly I wouldn't buy and rent the same game at the same time. So if I was to be on gamepass or psnow I wouldn't be buying those games, let's forget about the poorer performance. That is the trade I'm talking about.

And in fact considering OP complain as long as he buys the games and don't manage HDD (as he is doing now) the problem would persist on subscription unless he just stopped purchasing game, so he would in fact trade one for the other.

AngryLittleAlchemist said:
COKTOE said:

That sounds annoying. I think you have a bunk system. I have never had this happen on either my launch PS4 or the Pro, and I have used them both quite a bit more than you have.

Oh I know it's not an intentional issue or something too common on PS4 Pros. 

I've always hoped it was more so a simple software issue with the PS4 Pro rather than a hardware issue, since the system runs fine otherwise (the only time the OS is slow is in the store or when I'm playing a very demanding game and using the main PS4 menu). 

That being said I guess I should really stop being lazy and look for a fix. It's possible it's just something I need to tinker around with. Usually I just restart my console. It can be annoying though especially when you start a high-octane action game and realize minutes in that your sound is screwing you up

I never had this issue, but my OS was very slow and I discovered that rebuilding your database can correct several unrelated issues.

SvennoJ said:
d21lewis said:

Keep it turned on so that the updates install automatically. Also (unless there are a lot of updates) most games let you start playing at least the intro after a couple of minutes.

MY PROBLEMS with the PS4 are:

-if the system shuts down accidentally, it has to go through an entire systems check. It also doesn't automatically reconnect to the web when power is restored. You may have a ten second power outage and not even know it. Then you fire up your PS4 only to have to go through a diagnostic check of the console and hard drive. 

-Cloud storage is a chore. I'm sure it's great compared to the Switch but when my other console just lets me go to another room, turn on whatever game I was playing, and instantly have my progress (think Netflix or YouTube), having to sync my own data gets aggravating.

-Controller is probably dead. Whenever I'm finally ready to play, my battery is probably dead. I also have 3 PS Move controllers that stay on a charging cradle. Two of them won't hold a charge at all.

That's about it.

The problem is, at some point updates start failing because a lot of games require the entire game to be copied for an update. GT Sport needs 80GB free for a small update. Fortnite also takes forever to copy after each update.

I can't keep it on as, what you said, if you unplug it to move it, it has to go through an entire systems check. Plus data caps... Certainly can't let the thing download huge updates by itself for everything that's still installed.

I don't know if Windows 10 automatically updates its apps. I deleted FH4 and Crackdown just to be sure. My game pass month has run out and I don't want to waste bandwidth on game updates. I was done with those anyway.

And yeah those move controllers. I have to use one wired as well for psvr, won't charge anymore. The ps4 very usefully recommends to unplug the cable for a better experience....

You have to do the correct and full power off to unplug and move so you don't have to go through system check. I unfortunatelly have to go over it almost every day because around 3pm every day there is a second or two power outtage.

GoOnKid said:
BasilZero said:
You dont delete data with a game you finish (other than the save data)?

HDD space should not really be a issue unless you installed every single game you have.

Also its not a issue with the PS4 specifically, I mean this "issue" is just something that is now the norm for gaming.

If it takes a day to install something, go do something else and wait till next day to play the game - or what I do is I would install something that takes quite a while and play something else.

You delete games that you've finished?

Most people delete the game (the 40+ GB) after they finish a game and won't play it again in the near future, keeping only the save.



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