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TH3-D0S3R said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

I wouldn't be so sure.

In fact, with Trump's actions provoking a counter-movement in the other direction, I think Biden is too centrist to garner the votes of of the progressives, as he's to centrist, too conservative, too much embodying "Establishment".

Also, have a look at this video. I know it's just a prediction, but it seems fairly logical to me for the most part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvOqcHSiPl0

Bernie and others though would likely struggle to get independents/centrists votes seeing as how most people not on the far left still hate socialism. Independents make up the majority in terms of political affiliation, so just know if the Democrats decide to go Bernie or some other route to please the far left crowd, it will likely (and most probably) bite them in the rear end when it comes to independent votes such as mine.

BTW, I use to like Bernie's personality initially given the contrast of everyone else, but then I listened to his policies, and safe to say after a month's time I despised him. Bernie's the type of candidate like Romney that would likely start strong but soon head on a downward trajectory once everyone understands their platform. No matter how much people can claim 'Socialism would be great' (even though history states otherwise), the majority of Americans still hate it.

Biden works because he can appeal to the middle while also being a charismatic figure for the left. Honestly, given the choice of Bernie or Trump, I'd pick Trump every time due to economic beliefs (which is seen as the biggest issue in most American elections), but if say Biden were to run, I'd have to give it some thought.

That's not true at all,

https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/

Bernie Sanders topped the Senate popularity list for the 11th quarter in a row. At 64%, he is gathering support not just from the far left, but amongst a significant portion of mainstream voters in his state.

Additionally, in Presidential Elections. The general American population would overwhelmingly vote for Bernie Sanders over Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationwide_opinion_polling_for_the_2020_United_States_presidential_election#Bernie_Sanders

 

You keep bringing up "socialism" - which isn't a specific policy. Socialism is a wide ranging school of political thought with vastly different policy points. Socialism is generally about the fair ownership of the means of production by the workers, rather than by director boards hired by unrelated investors. Another problem is the term "socialism" is very poorly understood in the US; from what I am aware, the US primary and secondary school systems have a near complete lack of education on economics, philosophy, and political sciences - so many Americans associate it with Cold-War era propaganda buzz words which are philosophically unrelated (and in many cases, the opposite) to what socialists and Bernie Sanders are actually talking about.

Bernie Sanders defines his brand as being in support of an economy that works for every American, and an end to the gross unfairness and corruption in the government. But, Sanders also supports minimum wage practices, which are social democratic in nature and common through the Western world - including the US, which has had this policy since 1938. Other socialist schools are generally not in favour of government control of the value of minimum wage as it is an overstep of authority on the worker's economy - alternatively, they prefer wage rate minimums to be negotiated between businesses and worker unions: and this would include severance package negotiations as well as minimum wages based on years of service, age, and experience, and other elements; in the current US economy, the power is in the hands of corporations, and this is a large reason why board members and high ranking executives take home disgustingly higher salaries than the workers.

But I digress.

Which specific Bernie Sanders policies do you not like?



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