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colafitte said:
Miyamotoo said:

Are we generalise things? I only saw that kind of comments just for Assassin's Creed 3 and Dead by Daylight, bad port is bad port, it doesn't matter about what platform we talking about. And huge majority of people were talking how different kind of games in Direct we saw, both 1st party and 3rd party, no how 1 or 2 games looked bad, and guess what, Switch will only getting much more different 3rd party games in any case. Switch will not stop receving games because PS5/XB2, buy time they arive Switch will be platform with install base of around 70m and will be very healthy platform in any case, so offcourse that plenty of 3rd party will keep releasing games for Switch, I mean its not like that Switch is getting even now plenty of AAA current gen games that next gen will effect on Switch support.

Talking about sales, Super Mario Maker 2 launch in June is huge difference compared to last year, we are getting big Switch game at end of Q1 of FY19, while we in 2018. we needed to wait Q3 of FY18 for big game.

I was just giving my opinion. AC3, DbD, DQ XI, Senua, all looked blurry, or had huge framerate problems compared to PS4/XBO. And those are just games from last Direct, there are other games that suffered a lot already on sale. So yes, most games that were meant to work on PS4/XBO look way worse on Switch is a fair "generalisation". 

And no, 3rd party devs that will spent a lot of money and time making games for PS5/XB2 won't spent as much money, time and games on Switch, despite having a bigger install base. That didn't happen with Wii compared to PS3/X360 and it's not going to happen with Switch for obvious reasons. You forget too that those companies will still sell games on PS4 and XBO that will have an even bigger instal base than Switch. By the time they stop selling games on those consoles (and Switch has 70M sold like you said), PS5/XB2 will have enough install base combined to sell specific games for those consoles.

We are in 2019 and Capcom, Square Enix, EA, Activision, Bethesda, Ubisoft, etc have not announced a single exclusive AAA game for Switch. Some of them will make games for Switch of course, but those games won't help Switch to sell better, because they won't be the best games from those companies. Switch is going to live and die on 1st party Nintendo games. 3rd party games and indies are just icing on the cake.

Yeah, some of them look somehow blurry, but frame rate problems from initial trailers dont mean that game will have same frame rate problems when game is actually launched. Talking specifically about DQ11, despite game will be blurrier compared to PS4 version, it will be definitive version of game (it will include 2D mode from the 3DS version, new story, orchestral music and Dual audio). And it doesnt really matter if multiplatform in most cases look worse than PS4/XB1 versions (thats expected), real value of Switch versions of all multi platform games lies in full handheld mode that PS4/XB1 dont offer (and same thing will most likely be even when PS4/XB2 arives).

Like I wrote, its not like that Switch is getting even now plenty of AAA current gen games that next gen will effect on Switch support, so I dont expecting big AAA multipaltform games on Switch when PS5/XB2 arives, but more games like we having now (some bigger curent gen games, AA/A games, 3rd party exclusives, last gens ports, Indies..), there is no reason 3rd party completely abandon Switch if they can still make profit on it. And yes, if you have healthy platform with big install game, where you can sell your games, offcourse that some 3rd partys will keep releasing some games to Switch. Wii compared to PS3/X360 is totally different story compared to Switch to PS4/XB1, Wii was much weaker than PS3/360 and didnt support most engines and tools that PS3/X360 supported, while Switch is much closer in power to PS4/XB1 and supports all modern engines and tools. You forget that moment new PS/XB platforms arives on market PS4/XB1 will start receving slower support and have much slower sales in any case,same like was for PS3/360, on other hand Switch will still Nintendo active platform that will still keep selling and receiving support in any case.

Well Switch even its still less than 2 years on market have some interesting 3rd party exclusives released/announced (Fast RMX, Snipperclips, Go Vacation, Shin Megami Tensei V, Mario x Rabbids, Travis Strikes Again, Octopath Traveler, Daemon X Machina, Bayonetta 3, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, Astral Chain, Yo-kai Watch 4, Tetris 99..), and we will have much more of them on Switch in any case. And yes, those games and 3rd party platform games help Switch to sell better because simple with 3rd party games Switch lineup is more diverse, and thats important because in that way Switch is reaching market beyond Nintendo fans, even if fact is that Nintendo games easily biggest system seller games on Switch (or any other platform.

 

Your bigger mistake when you talk about Switch compared to PS4/XB1 or even compared to PS5/XB2, is that you talk like Switch is compete directly with all of them, like people are forced to choose between PS/XB platforms and Switch, while reality is that Switch so much different in any case (going from hybrid concept to Nintendo games and exclusives) compared to PS4/XB1 (and it will be compared to PS5/XB2) that people can have both PS and Switch or Xbox and Switch, or PC and Switch. And sales data exactly shows that, majority Switch owners have PS4 or XB1, that means that PS4 and XB1 owners are buying Switch also. So that why Switch not effect buy to much in any case by PS4/XB2, main point of Switch will be still there and thats Switch hybrid concept and Switch lineup of games, with only difference that in that time period at end of 2020. Switch will have price point of around $200 and at least 1-2 revisions with strong lineup and even more 3rd party support.

Last edited by Miyamotoo - on 15 February 2019