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DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

Show me where I ever said N64, Gamecube, Wii U or Xbox One were success stories.

The fact remains that PS3 lost billions of dollars, was outsold, and gutted Sony's console marketshare. It's hard to frame that as a success.

So you jumped to defend only part of the argument but forgot to mention it? Because original point is PS3 being a flop by selling 85+M while others being a success selling less than 30M and all of that because of "context". There is as much or more context to say those systems are flop than to PS3 being a failure.

I explained the lost of billions but sure ignore it. On being outsold it was by a system that both companies admit didn't directly compete. Now if you want to say MS stole about half the sales PS3 could have coming from PS2 that would be another point.

Again, I never said systems selling less than 30 million were successful.

How other non-gaming divisions fared does not change the fact that PS3 lost billions. And tbh the "don't directly compete" card is only ever played when someone wants to try to claim their preferred system being outsold "doesn't count".