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Torillian on 06 February 2019
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Victorlink87 said:
the-pi-guy said:

That's my point.  Just because you don't see confederate flags doesn't mean there aren't racists.  

Just because racists are "relegated to their closets" doesn't mean they don't still have an impact on others, and it doesn't mean they don't exist.

Your "hard numbers" are anecdotal.  

And it's not about what feels right.  I've got anecdotal evidence that suggests the opposite of yours.  

I never said you said otherwise.  The point that I was making is that if number of flags correlates to the number of people who support that flag, then there'd be basially 0 communists.  

1. I never said that there weren't any racists. My point was that they exist in small numbers to the point of not being important in every day life with every day people. Should their actions effect others then they need to be held accountable. Legislating thought is silly. Right now, they have 0 impact on southern society. Maybe their families, but nothing for society.

2. All numbers on white supremacists are ancedotal. No one has hard numbers on them.

Therefore, the only meaningful way to get an esitmation on their numbers is to use any data we have on their activity. The most significant activity they have had in the last 20 years was the Unite the Right rally. It only ran about 500. So, its possible to surmise that only about 2000 openly active white supremacists exist. Then to get an exact number on other racists and white supremacists we need to start reading minds.

3. I agree with that notion. However, gauging a number on people's unspoken thought is difficult at best. I can only make a call based on action.

My entire point in this thread was simply to say that the South is no where near as racist as people say. I speak of every day people.

Do you really think it's reasonable to estimate that 1 out of every 4 white supremacists in the US was in attendance at the Unite the Right rally? Estimates for the membership of the KKK alone are at 5,000- 8,000 members (https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-many-nazis-are-there-in-america-really) and the KKK chapters make up 130 of the 450 white supremacist organizations in the US (https://www.thewrap.com/how-many-white-supremacists-splc-hate-map/). I don't mind the idea that they make up far less than 1% of the population, but 2,000 sounds like a ridiculously low number. 



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