Brexit

[Bofferbrauer2]

fatslob-:O said: 

2) There is no "right way" to hold referendums and Swiss model is just one of the models to hold a referendum ... 

3) Keeping EU membership is not an acceptable option either for the British people ...

b) BTW, changing the format doesn't make the answers more clearer than the first referendum. The original question was, "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" Both the options 'Leave' and 'Remain' were just as valid as both had clear outcomes ... 

The British people knew very well what they were doing when they were crossing off the 'Leave' box ... 

2) The difference between a Swiss referendum and the Brexit vote is that the population first gets fully informed on all the pro and cons and in a neutral manner, something that didn't happen in the UK. At. All.

3) I wouldn't be so sure about that, I'm fairly certain if there would be a second referendum (which most probably won't happen) Remain would win by a good margin - especially since quite a few find a no-deal Brexit even worse while one could still leave the EU orderly at a later date if the UK would remain now.

b) The problem here is that it's too black-or-white, it lacks both nuance and exact definition.

We got the perfect example at school as to why this is very important: First we got a text about Euthanasia (which was a big question in Luxembourg at the time), and got if we would allow to use euthanasia like in the text "on people who according to medical consensus are terminally ill with no hope on improvement". Most of the class said yes at the time, then the teacher dropped the atomic bombshell: The text in question was actually the Euthanasia Law of Nazi Germany, and due to lack of nuance and definition they did use it to kill millions for reasons like, Alzheimer, Tourette syndrome, or simply missing a limb, and explained that technically at the time everybody who had to wear glasses would be eligible (nowadays there's surgery that can heal that) under that law.

This is why laws are normally several pages long texts, as they have to be defined exactly and include enough nuances to both future-proof a law and for avoiding things falling under being it by circumnavigate the issue. And this is the reason why in Switzerland everybody gets all the information with all the pros and cons mailed to them to make sure they choose really what they want without outside influence overshadowing everything.

Last edited by Bofferbrauer2 - on 26 January 2019